Challenge to West Coast Teams for 05 Regionals

[ngreen]

While everybody is going everywhere. Come to Kansas City in 2005. We'd be glad to have y'all *using my best midwestern talk while mumbling about dorothy red shoes and munchkins*. Hopefully it will spawn some new powerhouse midwestern teams.

Anyways look for the red shoes of 1108 at Houston and Atlanta.

[Ken Leung]

Originally Posted by D.J. Fluck

I know this challenge is coming really late/early depending on your perspective, but its never too early to plan to the future....but I've noticed how the west coast teams always challenge the east teams to come west and many of these teams that are financially able/permitted by schools/sponsors have met your challenege, so its time to put the ball in our court. I officially issue a challenge to west coast teams to bear the cold and come east to our regionals. You have a pretty nice selection of regionals from Midwest, Great Lakes, UTC, BAE, New Jersey, and even a few in Pennsylvania and Virginia/Maryland. So if you aren't scared come and play with us.

In all fairness, I believe there is 1 thing you guys haven't considered. A lot of west coast teams travel out east to go to the Championship event!

To most of you who are at Florida, Georgia, Houston, or the states close to the Championship events in the past, all you have to do is drive over and compete (I know that's not true for everyone, some of you segway over since it came out, but bear with me here). Mean while, we pay 200-300 dollars per airplane ticket and travel across half, if not most all the way across the country just to compete with the rest of you. I think that deserve a little credit.

I think if we are to have a "challenge" setup, lets make it a fair one. I would consider team 22 Chatsworth high school going to Toronto, team 254 Cheesy Poofs going to Cleveland, and team 330 Beachbot / team 980 Thunder bot coming out to IRI at 02 and 03 meeting the challenge.

I would also consider team 835, and 859 coming out to Sacramento Regional, team 69, 815, 1187 coming to Southern California, and Chief Delphi coming to Silicon Valley Regional meeting the challenge.

Those are the teams that has to travel a long distance to championship event as well as going out of their way to a far away regional ;-).

[KarenH]

Originally Posted by Ryan Foley

I'd love to see a southern california or florida team come to BAE regionals and see how they handle the near artic temperatures (no offense)

How well do you Easterners know U.S. history? Members of the Donner party FROZE to death in CALIFORNIA in the 1800s; do you know what the survivors ate to stay alive? By the way, the Donner party consisted of Easterners. Maybe if they'd had better leadership, like someone with FIRST experience, they would have made wiser choices and avoided the history books. ;-)

Anyway, I fractured my leg in November 2001 when I slipped on ICE in CALIFORNIA. We were hiking in the snow, just for fun. We had been on the trail over an hour when I slipped. We weren't in an ice rink or a giant freezer; we were outside in real, natural, genuine SNOW. You know, freezing temperatures and all that.

The main reason my husband (ChrisH) hasn't been skiing the last few years (skiing in SOUTHERN California) is because he's been too busy with FIRST. Lots of Angelenos would ski more often if the lift lines weren't so loooong...

Other than money, one of the reasons Team 330 hasn't been East is that we're too busy maintaining the FIRST presence locally...

--KarenH

[Redhead Jokes]

Originally Posted by D.J. Fluck

I officially issue a challenge to west coast teams to bear the cold and come east to our regionals. You have a pretty nice selection of regionals from Midwest, Great Lakes, UTC, BAE, New Jersey, and even a few in Pennsylvania and Virginia/Maryland. So if you aren't scared come and play with us.

I'm not scared of the regionals
the cold will intimidate me
but the opportunity for adventure and meeting all you east coasters
I'll weather it while *grumbling*

however it's San Diego's regional we'll be doing 2005 * throws and runs away*
.

[Ken Leung]

Originally Posted by Redhead Jokes

however it's San Diego's regional we'll be doing 2005 * throws and runs away*

Looks like I will just have to go back to Manchester kickoff 2005 so SOME west coast people are there. *sigh*

[Redhead Jokes]

Originally Posted by Ken Leung

Looks like I will just have to go back to Manchester kickoff 2005 so SOME west coast people are there. *sigh*

*chuckle* Sorry. Thank you for representing. We may be able to go 2006 after supporting San Diego regional.

[Nate Edwards]

We would go but its a huge trip, we go to championships each year and are hoping to go to 2 regionals next year.. If we work hard enough our second regional might get to the midwest.. I don't know, its really hard to fundraise out here, with a lack of big companies, but maybe we can get some of the big companies is Portland to sponsor us, Nike, Addidas, And Reebok all said no... so it doesn't leave alot of options.
Nate

[Pat Roche]

Originally Posted by MisterX

I would hardly consider New Hampshire Arctic in March... I gotta give my props to my cous out Wolverine Idaho where any exposed skins turns frostbite after 3 minutes. Now that is Arctic. Why I think I was wearing a long sleeve T-SHIRT!!!! when I was at BAE Id like to see you do that out in the Rockies that time of the year

Well in 2003 it was -12 degrees two mornings in a row and i know there was at least one case of frost bite on my team ....probably doesnt help that we stood out side verizon for and hour and a half before the doors opened either though.

-Pat

[JakeGallagher]

Pat mentioned one case of frostbite...well I think there were at least a few and I think there were like five or six cases of colds and such. I think it was worth it though.

(/me is still cold)

[Travis Hoffman]

Originally Posted by J Flex 188

We can offer a great atmosphere, friendly people and lots to do to teams that are only within an 8 hour drive usually!

Friendly people is an understatement. It is impossible for your team to feel uncomfortable or unwelcome in Canada. That's part of the reason 48 goes up north every year. That and of course the outstanding competition! It really is one of the most organized and well-staffed events FIRST runs.

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by T. Hoffman

Friendly people is an understatement. It is impossible for your team to feel uncomfortable or unwelcome in Canada. That's part of the reason 48 goes up north every year. That and of course the outstanding competition! It really is one of the most organized and well-staffed events FIRST runs.

We'd love to see more American teams come up to the Canadian Regional, it makes the whole event more exciting.

While we're on the topic, I'd like to invite teams to come up and attend the 2005 Waterloo regional. The event will be held on the campus of the University of Waterloo, which is only 45 minutes southwest of Toronto's airport. The venue will be nice and intimate, and the town is a great place to visit. I know it's early, but teams should definitely keep this in mind. Plus I'll be there, what more could anyone want?

[Avarik]

Well we went to the canadian regional...and all I gotta say is we had a blast! Team 188 hosted us, making it more cost effective, and a lot more fun too. Yeah, we had to pay a good deal for shipping and airplane tickets, but it was well worth it.

We started off heading over to team 188's member's houses. They were hosting us, so 2 southern californian kids per canadian family that was willing to host (11 students and the teacher came alltogether). They took us sight seeing on wednesday. We went to Niagra falls, where a few of us saw snow for the first or second time in our lives (no joke!). After that, we went to the top of the CN tower, where one of our members conquered his fear of heights. We had dinner in the revolving tower, and then headed to the raptor vs. golden state game.

The next 3 days were the competitions. Our teams were very friendly with eachother, and we constantly went back and forth to see how the other was doing. We would help where we could, loan tools, and just hang out in the bit of spare time we had. Saturday, 188 ended up being 8th seed, and alliance 6. They turned down an invite from a higher seed, and ended up picking us as their first alliance partner! We went on to the quarter-finals with our alliance, and sadly lost to the winning regional alliance in the tiebreaker. Unfortunatly, our robot's arm broke, as did 188's hanging mechanism. However, 188 won a few awards! They won the sportsmanship award, well deserved! They also won the website award for the second time this year, and I hope they can take it home at nationals. Their mentor, Mr. Anderson, won the Woodie Flowers award as well, and from what I saw, nobody would be more deserving.

We headed out to dinner with 188 that night and had a pretty good time there. Sunday they took us shopping at the Eaton Center, and we hung around with a few of their team members. Monday they took us to school with them, and beside the below freezing weather, it was fun. Our school systems are actually different in a lot of ways, so it was interesting to see how.

All in all, we had a blast! We could not have come up there without 188's support and help. They opened up their homes to us, and made sure we had a good time. We ended up in talks of a rotational system, where they would come the next year, then we would go to Canada the year after, etc. I cannot thank 188 enough for all of their help. As you can see, we stuck together and actually became good friends with their members.

I hope other teams take this lead and begin the hosting process, because it takes the cost of hotels out of the factor, enables some sightseeing, and makes the experience better alltogether.

[J Flex 188]

I am already counting down the days until we can visit Team 22 in California next year. Adding onto what avarik said, which was a fantastic and really humbling post, we were EXTREMELY glad to be able to host Team 22. When the first few people signed up for hosting we were not exactly sure what we were getting into. Yet right from the first night when we picked them up at school, it became clear just how great this experience was going to be. Forget about staying at the same hotel at a regional competition, the same houses, strategy and scouting meetings with two teams there, it was just a unique and truly wonderful experience that Team 188 enjoyed as much as Team 22 did coming over here. The culture at times is so different from the United States' and then at times so similar. (Milk in a bag versus our own 5-6ft high lockers, combined science and math courses in grades 9 and 10, the fact that we refer to grades 9 and 10 instead of freshman/sophomore). This goes beyond robotics as well! Take into account all the exchange and work placement programs you have heard about at school, add a dash of FIRST robotics and gracious professionalism, and you have the International Robotics Exchange Program, truly something that exemplifies the spirit of FIRST.

[sanddrag]

I don't know if y'all would like us playing out east - we would win too much. j/k We would love to but money is always an issue. Anyway, we might meet the challenge by heading out to IRI this summer. It depends on how many people on our team are going to be in the country at that time, I can only count on about 4 right now including myself. Then of those people, how many could actually go. It might just me me, my tools, and the robot. LOL! Anyway, we are planing on our first ever Championship event for next year. Its about time, we will be a 5th year team.

[Kyle Love]

Originally Posted by D.J. Fluck

I know this challenge is coming really late/early depending on your perspective, but its never too early to plan to the future....but I've noticed how the west coast teams always challenge the east teams to come west and many of these teams that are financially able/permitted by schools/sponsors have met your challenege, so its time to put the ball in our court. I officially issue a challenge to west coast teams to bear the cold and come east to our regionals. You have a pretty nice selection of regionals from Midwest, Great Lakes, UTC, BAE, New Jersey, and even a few in Pennsylvania and Virginia/Maryland. So if you aren't scared come and play with us.

I noticed that at the time the 2005 Purdue Regional wasn't really around but now the teams from the West can come to a "well known" college and compete, and maybe do a little sight seeing around the campus. Hopefully the Purdue Regional will have teams from North, South, Canada, and maybe even Brazil. I say we pack the Purdue Regional as full as possible and make it a "Super Regional" in 06 with like 2 playing field and twice as many alliances in the eliminations. Hopefully we can see your team at the 05 Purdue Regional!

-Kyle