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I penalize the Red Alliance six times (60 points) for goaltending 51 71.83%
I don't penalize the Red Alliance 19 26.76%
I do something else ... please explain 1 1.41%
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Re: YMTC: Is it goaltending?

Thank you Ken, Dave and Joe for your responses.

They make sense. (I hadn't checked the Q and A board on this subject.)

I would still like to see the rule changed to "no goal tending if uncapping". However I will have to live with FIRST's interpretation. Hopefully there won't be any important matches decided by a team getting penalized when uncapping and the opponent throwing balls at them. To me, that is getting into the "lawyer zone": winning by intentionally drawing fouls where there was essentially no real chance of scoring and a nice stationary goal was wide open and closer.

(By the way, we get our capping ball in autonomous, so I'm not just saying this to help our team win.)

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Re: YMTC: Is it goaltending?

Thing I cant figure out in this whole thread is:

why would you uncap your OPPONENTS goal for them in the first place?

all you are doing is helping them score points

there are three 2x balls on the field - ive yet to see a match where more than one was touched by a bot.
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Re: YMTC: Is it goaltending?

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there are three 2x balls on the field - ive yet to see a match where more than one was touched by a bot.
During our teams matches in the PNW regional, there were many times when we would choose the closest 2x ball to try to cap the big goal, and somtimes, we would cap a small and the large goal. there have been many times were we have used the ball from our opponents mobile goal to cap our own goals, making this scinerio very real for us. It is important for us to uncap opponents goals because we have a mechanism to grab goals, and moving their goal to our side usually causes that mobile goal to go unused during that match.
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Re: YMTC: Is it goaltending?

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Thing I cant figure out in this whole thread is:

why would you uncap your OPPONENTS goal for them in the first place?

all you are doing is helping them score points

there are three 2x balls on the field - ive yet to see a match where more than one was touched by a bot.
You need to watch more matches then! There are many bots than can manipulate more than one 2x ball, or even use one, and go for another. Since a lot of strategies call for controlling the 2x balls, you go for whichever is closest to you, and maybe your partner can do the same. Not evenone has the capability to grab or push goals effectively to their own side, so you're not necessarily helping them score any points in the mobile goal. Sometimes the mobile goal never moves - it hasn't seemed to be an integral part of the game yet. I think most would gladly take control of the 2x ball to cap their own full goal even if it lets the opponent score a few balls in their mobile goal.
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