Next Years Game

[Ben]

Hey Everybody~

Just wondering if anyone had any ideas on the play for next year? I read the one about the water. Not likely. I have a feeling it will be with balls again. I even heard something about stairs(?) Maybe im not sure. Wouldnt that be a challenge!? Well, see what you think.


Ben

[Carolyn Duncan]

If i's stairs we better all look out. Dean's chair can do it but look at all the stuff on that thing. I hope we play an already popular sport. I also doubt the water idea.
C~ya,
Carolyn

[mike o'leary]

it may not be likely, but then again, who expected a game with out any direct competition?
mike whos all for the water game

[Matt Leese]

My guess is no balls last year. The main reason why: we've used balls for the past two years and FIRST doesn't like to make it that easy for us. I expect some sort of bizarre objects a la floppies from '99. I'm still hoping for inflatible cubes though....

Matt

[Andrew Dahl]

1: 4 v0 again
2: some sort or roatating device that the bots must place color coded times on
3: once again TIME BONUS
4: mid field obstace- my best guess is three stairs


dahl
team497

[Matt Leese]

Originally posted by Andrew Dahl
1: 4 v0 again
2: some sort or roatating device that the bots must place color coded times on
3: once again TIME BONUS
4: mid field obstace- my best guess is three stairs


dahl
team497

I'm of the opinion that we won't be doing 4v0 again. It may not be 2v2 or 1v1v1, but I think there will be head to head competition. Partly because of Lori's promise for there to be more competition in the game next year (at least I'm hoping it was a promise ). I'm also of the opinion that overall the 4v0 didn't go over too well with the teams, particularly veterans. Unfortunately, I think that if we try 4v0 again, there will be a significant number of teams not returning the next year. I think FIRST knows this and will act apropriately.

Matt

[Robby O]

It could be 4 teams trying to accomplish a task against 2 FIRST-built robots. FIRST could have a small army of robots and each time there would be a random selection (like normal) to see which perfectly-engineered robot each team would go up against. This would finally give FIRST co-workers a chance to join the games. Who wouldnt want to play a game against Dean or Woody? And it would still allow for the 4-team alliance. How 'bout that???

[EddieMcD]

Couldn't go against Woodie. Who'd announce? Well, it would give The High Priest a chance to overtake him in the pin count...

I would love 1 vs 1 vs 1, but if that's too much, how about a spinning goal again?

-Ed "Who really loved Torrid Terror" McDonnell

[Andrew Dahl]

going up against FIRST Built robot would be a hoot

talk about braggin rights if you are the first to get one over on a DK created robot- that would be about as good as winning the regional


dahl
who obviously needs to get more sun light and off the CD on the computer in the basement

[Matt Leese]

Originally posted by Robby O
It could be 4 teams trying to accomplish a task against 2 FIRST-built robots. FIRST could have a small army of robots and each time there would be a random selection (like normal) to see which perfectly-engineered robot each team would go up against. This would finally give FIRST co-workers a chance to join the games. Who wouldnt want to play a game against Dean or Woody? And it would still allow for the 4-team alliance. How 'bout that???

Like they don't have enough to do already?! Then again I'd be they'd be more likely to relax certain rules....

Matt

[Andrew Rudolph]

the only problem i see with the 4vFIRST is that they would have to build alot of them because to keep the flow moving they cant stop for a broken robot and with 2 regionals a weekend min, and then at nationals they would have to have like 8 robots and that could not even be enough, think how fast rounds moved this year.

[mike o'leary]

they could make a bunch of replica bots though, so it woudnt be too time consuming. one design, then just repeat a lot.
hmmm...i think robbys got something here...

[Tom Fairchild]

I already put this in another post, but this is a good spot for it too. Today I was lucky enough to actually talk to Dean. When he said goodbye, I said "I look forward to hearing from you in January." He stopped, kinda grabbed my arm and said, "This one's so sick even I'm proud of it." Sounds like whatever it is, its going to be a doozy. My personal guess is driving each others robots. Yes, that'd get a lot of people mad, but that's the point. User-friendliness.

~Tom~

[Mike Soukup]

Originally posted by Tom Fairchild
My personal guess is driving each others robots. Yes, that'd get a lot of people mad, but that's the point. User-friendliness.

I think a game like that would be a disaster. It would be very difficult to introduce someone to the controls of your robot in just a few minutes. Even though I was familiar with our robot this year, I didn't get to drive it a lot until we were getting ready for IRI. It took a good hour or so until I could perform all the basic tasks without messing up. Even then I wasn't nearly as good as our drivers.

You say that user friendliness is the key, but even that isn't good enough, it takes a familiarity with the controls and a good feel for the machine. A good example is a car. They're very user friendly, but different cars have different feels. When I drive my brothers car, it takes a few minutes to get used to the stiffness of the gas pedal, and to get a good feel for the clutch and shifter. Even then I can't really push the car to its limits (not that I would ) because I'm used to the handling of my car, not his.

To relate this back to the robots, it means that we would get inexperienced drivers making all sorts of mistakes. That is not a good for the spectators. It would be like making Tiger Woods use my golf clubs. Sure he'd do better than I can with them, but not as well as with his own clubs. It's more exciting to watch someone perform with the club/robot they're familiar with.

Mike

[David Kelly]

what about the idea of using footballs? it always seems to come up every year and it would be challenging.