Reverse Robotics !!!!!!!!!!

[dan 322]

Some of the reply's are great, your right........us mentors probably would end up destroying the robot. Then we could just blame it on the coach.

[OneAngryDaisy]

Seriously, this is the FIRST robotics competition- for high school students. it's kinda sad how this thread is supposed to have students- in a reverse role- 'fix' the robot. I mean, why must teams be high-school sponsored if kids don't fix the robot? Next year there's gonna be a team consisting of my dad and his drinking buddies, yeah.

I don't mean to offend or insult anyone... and this is entirely my own opinion.. so please dont take anything against 341 because of what I said.

[ric2006]

our team would be so crazy with reversed roles. But then all I would need to do is scream at the mentors, "what did you do to the program!!!!??" when nothing is wrong, and we would actually change the hardware instead of the program, and it would be much less stressful (even if I had to make all the travel arrangements

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Originally Posted by ric2006

But then all I would need to do is scream at the mentors, "what did you do to the program!!!!??" when nothing is wrong, and we would actually change the hardware instead of the program

Don't you know? There is no such thing as a hardware problem! When something isnt working, it is automatically the program's/programmer's fault!

[ric2006]

That is a utoopian thought

[JVN]

Originally Posted by Joel J.

Put a joystick in my hand again, with a robot on the other end, and I will definitely... heh, nvm .

Ohhh just wait my friend... just wait.

I've got something in store for YOU next year.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by JVN

Ohhh just wait my friend... just wait.

I've got something in store for YOU next year.

this?

[Steve W]

I am against the role reversal idea. I find it hard to make up as many excuses as I hear for not showing up or being late or not finishing a job or stopping what I was doing because I took so long I forgot what I was doing or ...........

Besides I would get bored sitting and gossiping instead of working. I like to keep busy but not by trying not to do work. I enjoy seeing things accomplished but would they ever get done.

I love being a mentor, PLEASE no role reversals !!!!!!! PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!

[Spaztik Duck]

Role reversal sounds great!!! I would LOVE to see some of our mentors doing the role of working the pit [our students do repairs not the mentors, tho they do help sometimes] and driving... Wherley did seem to want to try out being our human player... lol I think it could be great and also a learning experience for both students and mentors [that whole walk a mile in their shoes thing]. As for the whole slacking and making excuses, our mentors could easily do that... I mean come on... we've got Dave.

[Steve W]

In case my post was seen as student bashing IT WAS NOT. I enjoy picking on the kids and having fun. The problem with threads is that you can't see my face (lucky you) or hear my tone of voice. However I do love being a mentor.

[Lil' Lavery]

Does this mean i get to be my dad? And I get to skip half the build season to send things to Mars? And he has to become team scout and do a ton of chairmans award work? He already helps on mobility, so that wouldnt be a huge change, except now, he gets to do the grunt work, and I oversee and do occaisionally mill and lathe work....
And that the mentors have to do homework and projects during build season, and that they have to study and take tests? And they have to room 4 to a room in the hotels? Well, I think both sides think they'll be getting an easier job. And what kind of wierd team has mentors do repairs?

[MOEmaniac]

The students on my team already do the repairs and the mentors just give us suggestions

[Tom Bottiglieri]

hey people lets not turn this into a "kids on my team do ALL the work" thread...

[KathieK]

Originally Posted by MisterX

However it appears to me (speaking as merely a future mentor and not as an actual yet) that this thread has merely turned into a student bashing thread where mentors are venting about all the garbage that they have to go through becuase of a few bad apples.

My post was merely meant in fun. Yes, I get angry when I work really hard for the team and it doesn't appear to be appreciated (who wouldn't?). But then I watch a freshman come onto the team in September, and look at how (s)he is doing now, some 7 months later, and then I get a Thank You card from the Chairman's Award committee that I mentored, or a hug from our team captain, or get challenged to a race with the studnets on the stairs at the Congress Center, and all that anger melts away. I LOVE working with the students, good or bad.

"Listen to the adults, you can learn a lot.
Listent to the STUDENTS, you can learn a lot."
-- form All I Ever Needed to Know I Learned in FIRST

[duckyday]

i would hope that if we reversed roles, the only difference would be that the mentors would get a chance to drive and be human players...
It seems like the students and mentors do things together and learn together and that we are just a bunch of members of the team, so we would still be doing all the same stuff during the build together, but the mentors would get the chance to drive which many of them deserve, because they work just as hard to build the robot!