[moderated] 469 Entanglement / Bad Refereeing on Galileo

[Andy Grady]

Ok guys....why don't we all take a deep breath here. This thread has been nothing more than a personal bashing between team members who are correct and incorrect depending on the aspect that is shared. I think its rediculous that instead of constructively trying to address an issue on agressive play, many are instead verbally mocking or trashing someone elses reputation (and I do not mean the CD Rep points). Keep in mind, that this is after all...a game. And as competitive as we all can be, our purpose here is not about winning, losing, bad calls, good calls, etc... If you want to yell at refs and umps and team members...call a sports radio station about a baseball game. If you want to address the issue of agressive play, or maybe some constructive ideas on ways that FIRST could possibly make sure calls are clarified in the correct manner (i.e. instant replay, more refs) then by all means go for it. Please, no more insulting other members and disrespecting their wishes...this isn't the NBA, this is FIRST.

Thank you,
Andy Grady

[Pat Roche]

I seem to be stuck on the fence with this one. I firmly believe that the netting should be an entanglement hazard even though it is a great material to work with due to its lightweight and durable properties. I saw a HUGE amount of times where teams got stuck in the meshing and were not able to "unright" themselves. But at the same time if you make a move that involves a chance to become entangled with another bot then you should be at fault. From the way this play worked out I believe that both bots should have been shutdown and warned.

Thats just how I would have called it.

-Pat