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Frames 34 52.31%
Lack of Navigation 43 66.15%
Lack of Cross Browser Compatibility 21 32.31%
Long Download Time 32 49.23%
Poor Color Scheme 45 69.23%
Poor Grammar 34 52.31%
Other 12 18.46%
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Re: Top errors in building a website

we kept the numbers down for the team, so we also have a robotics club who do work with legos etc thanks for your critique!
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Re: Top errors in building a website

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we are a rookie team and i made our first website this year. i was thinking maybe some of you guys can take a look and tell me whats wrong or what needs work, etc. were at http://www.pyrobots.com
I like it. I especially like the light silver background. I hate sites that have busy backgrounds. (Dark is usually bad too.)

I also hate sites that require, say, IE. (like the MS site) I use Firefox for all my home computers and I like it much better that IE. And to answer an earlier question, I think that if a site is Mozilla compatible, it's pretty much Firefox compatible. (pretty much meaning Firefox isn't yet at the 1.0 release. )
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Re: Top errors in building a website

I really hate webpages with bad color schemes and grammar put together. Those two together make me question why I am wasting my time at the site in the first place.

I really like frames, because they are the right way to layout webpages. No fancy-schmancy CSS here. All frames. Frames were meant for layout, tables for data, and CSS is my archenemy.

But thats just me - and I don't design webpages.

Very good job to you guys at Pyrobots. I really like the color scheme, and the site looks very professional. I also like the calendar a lot. The site renders very well in Mozilla Firefox and MSIE. And whoever laid out the site deserves a cookie.

My only complaint? The FIRST logo in the corner. I don't like the way it looks jagged. Maybe a little Antialiasing on it might help.
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Re: Top errors in building a website

This is not really html design, but for people who use php and perl, i see so many websites that wont run properly because the person who wrote them either didnt check they ran properly or didnt check enough for all conditions.

On the other topics, I dont like frames and defnitely agree that bad color schemes are extremely annoying.
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Re: Top errors in building a website

FOFMGOFMGOFM NO!!!!!!!11111

I just realized... by combining some of our most major pet peeves with websites, the most AWESOME and AMAZING site can be made! Don't diss my friend's site... it's the funniest thing since... well... since Don't Do What Seanny Don't Does...

http://www.geocities.com/cloudweapon/

IT PWNZ!!!!!!!!111111222@

This is liek... one of my favouratist sites EVER
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I just realized... by combining some of our most major pet peeves with websites, the most AWESOME and AMAZING site can be made! Don't diss my friend's site... it's the funniest thing since... well... since Don't Do What Seanny Don't Does...

http://www.geocities.com/cloudweapon/
...Whoa, and we all thought those Japanese cartoons were bad with the whole "inducing-seizures" deal.
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Re: Top errors in building a website

Although admittedly headache-inducing, that website is fully compatible with Mozilla....
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Re: Top errors in building a website

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No fancy-schmancy CSS here. All frames. Frames were meant for layout, tables for data, and CSS is my archenemy.
Why do you hate css. You can do things with CSS that you can not do with html and it is pretty simple to learn.
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Re: Top errors in building a website

I need to point out the fact that CSS is god. If you ever try doing something like

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<input type="text" maxlength="10">
your text input will turn out imprecise. I've had experience where one input on top of another (one for username and another for password) varied in length by about two pixels, which was extraordinarily annoying. Only with a CSS addition, changing the code to

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<input type="text" style="width: 100px;">
could I achieve both text inputs to be of equal length. Essentially, HTML is the building block and CSS adds precision. And sure, you can write a beautiful website with no CSS at all, but CSS adds managability with classes and ids. If you ever undergo major site operations and want to change fonts or font colors (possibly because you've been told you have a bad color scheme ), simply modify your master CSS classes and you're set--contrary to using font tags in every page of your site and having to CTRL+H your way through every page you maintain. CSS is built to be powerful, flexible, efficient, and ... godlike.

Another example: I really hate is HTML's superscript. Whenever writing the "SM" in FIRST, or any superscript for that matter, HTML has the very annoying habit of messing up your vertical line spacing. I almost completely avoided using superscripts altogether until I did a bit of CSS experimentation. The result was that I now use the following as superscipts for my code, of which my "home-made" CSS superscripts do not interfere with line spacing:

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FIRST<span style="font-size: 8px; vertical-align: text-top;">SM</span>
Now granted <sup></sup> is a heck of a lot simpler, but I did say that CSS is the god of precision. CSS extends way beyond my simple examples here--CSS helps with padding, spacing, table borders, text manipulation, image manipulation... it goes a lot farther than it may deceivingly appear. As for an opinion on CSS, I'm completely all for it.

As for elements of bad websites, bad color schemes give away immaturity in web development. Also, I agree that slews of animated GIFS tend to get very annoying. I completely detest frames, especially if they have scrollbars. A lot of the time you can just look at a site and tell the skill level of the person who made it (or look in the source and find FrontPage META tags... hmm... tsk tsk ). A website really looks professional when the site executes consistent color schemes, fonts, and template usage. And whoever mentioned getting rid of background music on sites, I FULLY AGREE! I hate when sites interrupt my crankin' SRV.

And as for you Adam Y., I can't believe you're still on ChiefDelphi even AFTER the build season.
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Wrong font sizes, and bad color scheme => Worst SITE EVER!
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Re: Top errors in building a website

Grammer does annoy me, but what really makes me frustrated is the lack of navigation. Somtimes I feel like I have to hack into the next page because of bad and/or non-existant links. Long and unessisary video intros are also upsetting, at leat for me, with a 56k. I can't belive that somtimes I have to wait half an hour just to get to the homepage.
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I can't belive that somtimes I have to wait half an hour just to get to the homepage.
Shouldn't you have left the page long before you waited half an hour ?

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