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Unread 23-06-2004, 13:24
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Re: Broken O/I

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I have an old O/I (from a p-basic kit) And when we power it up the power led goes on green and the no data/radio goes on red. The small screen says 68.8. And thats it. It doesnt work. Dosnt comunicate with with the RC (channels are the same) doesnt respond to any input (all of the dip-switches are right) when you press the select button the 68.8 doesnt change. Its basicly dead. Now, looking at it it looks very much like a software (firmware?) issue. So, 1) does anybody know how to do a factory reset? or has anybody opened one up? Is it flashed on there? can we re-flash it?

We arent going to send it in to get repaired, cause we arent going to spend the money, so really we are willing to try anything (nothing to lose).

Any help would be GREATLY apreciated.
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Re: Broken O/I

If you take the O/I apart yourself and try to fix it, it will void any warrenty the part had on it and Innvation FIRST won't touch it. (I believe the O/I even has little stickers covering the screwholes on the back that say "warrenty void if broken" -- correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't looked an one in quite awhile!)

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Re: Broken O/I

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If you take the O/I apart yourself and try to fix it, it will void any warrenty the part had on it and Innvation FIRST won't touch it. (I believe the O/I even has little stickers covering the screwholes on the back that say "warrenty void if broken" -- correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't looked an one in quite awhile!)

Call Innovation FIRST, see what they say.

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They're on there.

Yeah, I wouldn't open up the OI unless IFI tells you to. Now have you tried to test if it works on tether, I assume it wouldn't though. Just contact IFI and see what they say, maybe they'll let you download the firmware.
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Re: Broken O/I

And tell us how they download firmware to the OI. That would be interesting.
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Re: Broken O/I

when you get a hold of the company do share with us what they tell you. you never know when one of us might need the information and be able to help someone else with the same problem.
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Re: Broken O/I

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And tell us how they download firmware to the OI. That would be interesting.
In every piece of IFI equipment that i have had the opportunity to void the warranty on, I have noticed a small 5 pin .1" pinheader. I believe this to be an ICSP header. The number of pins match. ICSP is a standard interface for programming pic microcontrollers in circuit using a programming tool. I strongly believe that this is how they change the firmware. There may also be a second way of programming the OI through the serial port(dashboard) that they are not telling us about. I have not had an opportunity to take apart a 2004 OI but i'm pretty sure that when i do this is what i will find. Actually now i am curious. I wonder if they have enabled code preotection. If not it would be possible to download the firmware from the OI, disassemble it, and hack the OI to do evil things. ::devious grin::
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Re: Broken O/I

Email me numberQ, I may have a spare that you can have if you need it.
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