2005 Regionals

[SpaceOsc]

Originally Posted by HHSJosh

First 69, now 188! Next thing ya know, 71 will come!

does anyone know about the las vages regional? so maybe we can go there, and win instead of having these power house outsider team stealing our regional

[Collin Fultz]

i heard the championships were moving to Indy



wait...wrong thread...sorry

anyways...the Purdue University Regional should be fantastic. Think: IRI quality teams at an official regional

I guess we just have to hope that hammond and the thunderbots dont' create the SuperAlliance again and run the field.

[Karthik]

Okay, for organizational purposes, here's the very unofficial list according to this thread.

Week 1: Rochester
Week 2:
Week 3: Purdue, New Jersey
Week 4: Waterloo, Philadelphia, Southern California
Week 5: Greater Toronto, Western Michigan

[Ashley Weed]

Originally Posted by Karthik

Okay, for organizational purposes, here's the very unofficial list according to this thread.

Week 1: Rochester
Week 2:
Week 3: Purdue, New Jersey
Week 4: Waterloo, Philadelphia, Southern California
Week 5: Greater Toronto, Western Michigan

.... and wouldn't ya'll know the week I'm waiting on is that one with the big blank next too it!

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by Karthik

Okay, for organizational purposes, here's the very unofficial list according to this thread.

Here's an updated version reflecting this announcement http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=29832.

Please remember that this list is based rumours and speculation. The regional dates are only official when FIRST publishes them.

Week 1: Rochester
Week 2: Florida
Week 3: Purdue, New Jersey, Long Island
Week 4: Waterloo, Philadelphia, Southern California
Week 5: Greater Toronto, Western Michigan

[Corey Balint]

Is it just me-or is it kind of pointless to hold 2 regionals within 50 miles of each other on the same weekend? One or the other is gonna go wayy down in attendence.

[Stephen Kowski]

from what i have heard the Florida Regional will be March 10-12

[Jeff Waegelin]

Originally Posted by Corey Balint

Is it just me-or is it kind of pointless to hold 2 regionals within 50 miles of each other on the same weekend? One or the other is gonna go wayy down in attendence.

Not necessarily. If you have an area with enough teams to support 2 regionals worth of teams on the same weekend, then both could be packed. Plus, when you have regionals that are "wayy down in attendance" from local teams, you usually end up with teams traveling from farther away to attend. It's really not a problem to fill two regionals, like that. Almost every regional is filled to capacity each year, no matter what the circumstances.

[Stephen Kowski]

Originally Posted by Jeff Waegelin

Not necessarily. If you have an area with enough teams to support 2 regionals worth of teams on the same weekend, then both could be packed. Plus, when you have regionals that are "wayy down in attendance" from local teams, you usually end up with teams traveling from farther away to attend. It's really not a problem to fill two regionals, like that. Almost every regional is filled to capacity each year, no matter what the circumstances.

or maybe if there are that many teams in one area there could be a super regional like the canadian regional that way you can accomodate all the teams in the area on ONE weekend.....hmmmm just a thought, I know that certain areas are thinking about it...

[Corey Balint]

Thats probably it, because i remembered hearing talks of NJ possibly becoming a Super Regional. So i guess to take away from that they made LI the same time.

Of course they will both be packed still, but some teams expected at NJ, might go to LI now.

And i am pretty sure there wont be any teams traveling to the NJ regional, because the new Midwest regional is happening then, aswell as SOcal happening the weekend after, i doubt any teams do both coasts at once. And Florida is the week before too, so i dont expect them to travel up.

[Adam Y.]

Thats probably it, because i remembered hearing talks of NJ possibly becoming a Super Regional. So i guess to take away from that they made LI the same time.

You've got to remeber that there are actually four regionals within a close radius. New York City, SPBLI, UTC, and the New Jersey regional are all within a close area. So yeah it's probably always been like this for at least three years.

Is it just me-or is it kind of pointless to hold 2 regionals within 50 miles of each other on the same weekend? One or the other is gonna go wayy down in attendence.

I remeber that they held SPBLI and the NYC regional on the same week so it's probably not the reason why. The team map shows it's possible to support three regionals going at once in the same area.

[Heretic121]

sorry to be all mean and mad and stuff... but... BOO NEW REGIONALS!!! i mean, i guess its good that First is expanding and everything, but its almost like watering out competition, and teams and matches that may have happened, that made UTC so great, this year IMO, but sadly it only had 36 teams. If there was a way to up that # isntead of kill it down, i think it would make things like Regional Champs mean more. but like i said i guess the expansion is a good thing.

*edit* also with the upping of the prices to attend competitions, some teams might only be able to attend one, instead of two. so that might also kill attendance.

[JVN]

Originally Posted by Heretic121

sorry to be all mean and mad and stuff... but... BOO NEW REGIONALS!!! i mean, i guess its good that First is expanding and everything, but its almost like watering out competition, and teams and matches that may have happened, that made UTC so great, this year IMO, but sadly it only had 36 teams. If there was a way to up that # isntead of kill it down, i think it would make things like Regional Champs mean more. but like i said i guess the expansion is a good thing.

Somewhere in that mess, I saw you have a point.

As FIRST expands, there will be more teams. These new teams need to compete, this means: more regionals.
Since these new teams are rookies, they (with a few awesome exceptions... Simbots, I'm looking at you) probably aren't as good as the "veterans". What does this mean?

The competitions will see "watered down". That is, you have to look a little harder to find a "stang-class" robot. Will they be any less exciting? Maybe, for a little while....

Here's the kicker: In 5 years, all these "rookies" we've got now, will be up to par with the "Chief Delphi"s of the world... then what?

You got it folks, it'll be a whole new world.

Expansion of FIRST is good because it exposes more students to the INCREDIBLE virtues of this program. Expansion is bad for FIRST because, it becomes more difficult to continue to provide an experience at the same level of previous years. FIRST is growing, and experiencing some growing pains, but overall..... expansion is a good thing. Sky's the limit.
FIRST ROCKS! Seriously.

Did you have any less fun this year at BAE then in previous years? Were the finals at UTC any less exciting than previous years? Heck no!
Did winning UTC mean less this year? Of course not.

FIRST is great, and it's only going to get better.
Especially with all the great people who are already involved, working their butts off to MAKE it better.

I'm excited for the future, and you should be too.

JV

[SpaceOsc]

my only objection to these new regionals that as all of those who already figured out the logistics of it, many things that occur during the First season like Florida teams going to to the Midwestern and Eastern teams going to So cal and so cal teams doing up to North West Regionals and etc. it seem the timing for all these regionals is horrible as its messing around with the diversity of team attendance across the board at the regionals by changing what options they have on what weekend.


-Osc-

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by Heretic121

sorry to be all mean and mad and stuff... but... BOO NEW REGIONALS!!! i mean, i guess its good that First is expanding and everything, but its almost like watering out competition, and teams and matches that may have happened, that made UTC so great, this year IMO, but sadly it only had 36 teams. If there was a way to up that # isntead of kill it down, i think it would make things like Regional Champs mean more. but like i said i guess the expansion is a good thing.

*edit* also with the upping of the prices to attend competitions, some teams might only be able to attend one, instead of two. so that might also kill attendance.

I have to agree with J to the Vizzle, but for a different reason.

I'm willing to bet that teams around regional sites wouldn't be in FIRST if it weren't for that regional springing up. I don't know if that's the story of 1293--maybe I'll ask about that sometime. But if we don't get regionals out there to show off what we've got to people, it'll be like a tree falling in the woods with nobody around to hear it. And unlike that classic question, this time it won't make a sound!