Kerry or Bush and why?

[Joe Matt]

Originally Posted by Jack Jones

Your distinguished panel of experts.

Wow, 20 reasons.
I thought they had it covered with "Idiot Son of an (expletive deleted)"

Well, I only have the second alblum, so it's 20. There is a whole 40 more on the first one.

[Matt Attallah]

Hey now - this is getting a little ugly here...

Lets get this back on track ASAP before it's locked...

[RudimentaryPeni]

Neither Kerry nor Bush, Ralph Nadar is the real ticket this year. He is not greedy, he cares about what happens to not only this country, but what happens to the whole world. Not just the people in the world, but the physical world itself. He is going to enforce such laws that will limit large corporations that pollute the environment and that will limit the green house effect that has plagued the world, and it's only getting worse. Find all of his views at Vote Nadar

[Ryan Dognaux]

Originally Posted by JosephM

Well, I only have the second alblum, so it's 20. There is a whole 40 more on the first one.

I find is hillarious that people base their views around a punk rock band, and a bad one at that.

[Joshua May]

Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux

I find is hillarious that people base their views around a punk rock band, and a bad one at that.

Actually, there are many bands, including Bruce Springstein and the Dixie Chicks. And I really don't think that JosephM's political views are centralized around his musical tastes, but maybe it is the other way around.

[Ryan Dognaux]

Originally Posted by Joshua May

Actually, there are many bands, including Bruce Springstein and the Dixie Chicks. And I really don't think that JosephM's political views are centralized around his musical tastes, but maybe it is the other way around.

I wasn't specifying Joseph. I was more surprised that NOFX bashes so much, and you know there are people out there basing their views entirely around their music.

Whatever happened to that good ole' Rock N' Roll?

[Eugenia Gabrielov]

In light of what is said, whatever happened to good ol' be civil when you talk to other people on Chief?

This whole "ugh! he's basing his political views on a punk band!" thing is a waste. The guy can post what he want, and as far as I could tell, he didn't sit there intending to insult anyone.

As Matt said very eloquently, maybe get it back on track...

Edit: Just to clarify, this post wasn't directed at insulting Ryan, which he seemed to gain the misconception of. I apologize for using his post as an example. This is general disgust of the whole fact that one little unique idea can throw everyone off about discussing rock bands instead of politics. Thank you.

[Joe Matt]

The Story of The 20 & Me
by Joseph Matt

It all started two weeks ago when my friend and I were shopping around for CDs. We looked and round and he showed me the Rock Against Bush alblum. I thought it was hilarious, and we listened to it on the way home. It was a good CD with bands like Green Day and Flogging Molly.

I latter decided to buy the CD on my own and found the 20 list, so I decided to share it with you guys here. The 20 list was just in the booklet, I didn't know it was aphiliated with a bad already (NOFX) and I've never heard (both name and music) of theme before.

I bought the CD because of my views and like it. It's foolish when a CD with a 20 list forms your platform. It's how you are raised and your experences that form who you are.

Anyway, that's my .20 on that issue.

[Meredith Rice]

Incubus - Make Yourself

(how's that for on track )

[Brandon Martus]

As much as I dislike this thread, I figured I would supply the 40 other reasons..

http://www.pubarso.com/misc/rockagai...h/scan0004.jpg
http://www.pubarso.com/misc/rockagai...h/scan0007.jpg

[Joe Matt]

Originally Posted by Brandon Martus

As much as I dislike this thread, I figured I would supply the 40 other reasons..

http://www.pubarso.com/misc/rockagai...h/scan0004.jpg
http://www.pubarso.com/misc/rockagai...h/scan0007.jpg

Thanks for the links Brandon. Like #13.

[Adam Y.]

He is going to enforce such laws that will limit large corporations that pollute the environment and that will limit the green house effect that has plagued the world, and it's only getting worse. Find all of his views at Vote Nadar

Global warming is such an interesting topic to discuss. I've read two completely contradicting things about whats going to happen because of global warming. It's either going to get really cold or really hot.

17.) He is a religious fanatic that belives in the apocalypes and that ONLY Evangelical Christians are eligible for the afterlife. Catholics, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and everyone that isn't in the Bush's flock are all doomed to Hell.

Hehehehheheh.... This is both very scary and both very funny. Im not even sure how they managed to find evidence of that.

and him destroying the space program (everybody who's taken basic science knows that you can't build a self-sustaining moon base. Now a self-sustaining Mars base...).

It's possible. Im not really sure why it wouldn't be from a scientific standpoint. Almost 10 pages of posts and all that's been said can be summed up in this song:
Kerry and Bush Singing.

Originally Posted by Brandon Martus
As much as I dislike this thread, I figured I would supply the 40 other reasons..

http://www.pubarso.com/misc/rockaga...sh/scan0004.jpg
http://www.pubarso.com/misc/rockaga...sh/scan0007.jpg

Again with the first president to enter with a criminal record deal. That's not right!!! Everyone knows Andrew Jackson was an avid pistol dueler and Washinton was wanted for treason. The tax issue is really a funky issu. I read an article in scientific america that says the income taxes do fufil their original purpose. The only problem is that state taxes are so regressive that it cances out the effect of the income taxes.

[RudimentaryPeni]

17.) He is a religious fanatic that belives in the apocalypes and that ONLY Evangelical Christians are eligible for the afterlife. Catholics, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and everyone that isn't in the Bush's flock are all doomed to Hell.

Hehehehheheh.... This is both very scary and both very funny. Im not even sure how they managed to find evidence of that.

If you need evidence then I want you to turn on your TV to TrinityBrodcasting. You will the the prodominent Bush support and the Kerry Bashing (thank god nothing about nadar). I think the "x" million dollar bond to them is wonderful to go along with all the other money the dollars that they have "in the name of Jesus" that are tax free becuase of a "non-profit organization". Isn't it somewhere in the constitution to separate church and state? If you need a url to investigate some more go to TBN

[Adam Y.]

I think the "x" million dollar bond to them is wonderful to go along with all the other money the dollars that they have "in the name of Jesus" that are tax free becuase of a "non-profit organization". Isn't it somewhere in the constitution to separate church and state?

Im a little confused. The only argement I can get out of that paragraph is that the Newtwork shouldn't be tax free because it's a religious newtwork. The only problem with that arguement is that every single church in the United States is non profit.

Isn't it somewhere in the constitution to separate church and state? If you need a url to investigate some more go to TBN

You might want to read the law a bit more. The states choose whether or not an organization is non-profit. Also I quote this:

For federal tax purposes, an organization is exempt from taxation if it is organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, public safety, literary, educational, prevention of cruelty to children or animals, and/or to develop national or international sports.

Also, I don't believe your claims that they bash Kerry or even support Bush. I have seen churches on the news loose their tax exempt status for doing the same thing.

[RudimentaryPeni]

I'm not targeting the churches that are your small town church that has services every Sunday, I’m targeting the Multi-billion dollar church that still claims to need money "or Jesus will strike you down". These aren't good people and should defiantly not be tax exempt! They exploit the people that really believe that Jesus will strike them down if Trinity doesn't get their 98 Billion dollars they need so they can "spread the word" (or so Jan Crouch can get another face job and buy more make-up)

I think you need to investigate this "non-profit organization more" and look at Paul Crouch's son’s collection of rare motorcycles and the massive cathedral!