Favorite quotes on CD gear!

[JVN]

Originally Posted by Katie Reynolds

You know, on second thought, go ahead and sell your "I am JVN" thongs and your Chief Delphi shirts. But don't be surprised if you make some enemies and lose a lot of people's respect in the process.

Especially with an attitude like that.

Ahhh... I have heard the voice of reason, and it is coming from Wisconsin.

Thank you Katie.
What she said... 100%.


This entire thing has grown silly.
If anyone intends to sell anything with my name/likeness on it, they should at least ask my permission. It's called COURTESY.
If I were to print anything with the chiefdelphi name, especially to SELL, I would again... ask permission. Not demand it.

Originally Posted by EddieMcD

Yeeeeeeeeessssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You asked for it!
...
Ahh... that felt good.

Yeah... great. I'm glad it felt good to quote people out of context.
You portrayed a few of my personal friends in a pretty bad light.

I do not appreciate it.
I'm sure, neither do they.

I'm going to be pretty careful not to ever say anything even remotely open in front of you, and I urge others to do the same. I don't want you scribbling down my words in your notebook to be repeated later.

Things said in a small group, or in confidence... are NOT to be repeated in a public forum. To do so (again) shows a complete lack of COURTESY.




Ohh, and Joe... you may be quick to defend young Jamie, but he was the one who responded with attitude.
As he has done in the past.

[sarcasm]Obviously he's entitled to the Chiefdelphi name, because... it's there. [/sarcasm]

How can you possibly compare this to the 254/60 debate? That's just crazy, and going way overboard.


Seriously. This has just been an awesome few weeks, ehh?
The golden age.

*shakes head*
John

[miketwalker]

I agree with Amanda in not locking this thread, because this is absolutly ridiculous. I really don't like to be rude or disrespectful... but this thread completly sickens me.

I can understand that you enjoy CD so much or whatever that you want to wear it's gear... but you should talk to a leader of that team to see if they agree before you go trying to promote the idea.

Now... even if morals don't seem to avoid you in doing this... then perhaps the fact that you are USING the CD system to promote this idea should make you think twice. That makes it so much worse... you are using a system hosted by CD to promote an idea that uses their name without their permission. I understand that you might've made a mistake... but this is not the first thread in which Astronouth has jumped the gun and disrespected engineers or teams. I understand a mistake, but learn... and move on and don't do it again. I personally believe that if this continues in this way, that you should not have permission to use the forums anymore if you will demoralize other members of this community and be disrespectful to teams.

[Eugenia Gabrielov]

Ok, hold on a sec. This honestly is getting a bit out of hand.

I don't know about anything Jamie does in other threads. So I wont' comment on it. But please realize that he hasn't replied to your last few posts. While I agree that using a trademark for personal gain is disrespectful, maybe we could continue to discuss this issue without targeting Jamie. I see many other threads with people disrespecting one another, and this one isn't the appropriate place I don't believe, in all respect, since not that many members of the community who may really need to see this are seeing it. Do you understand what I mean?

M Walker, while I think you make a strong point that disrespect isn't good and while Jamie may have done it before, the idea of removing him from the forum is a bit harsh. Please take the more personal attacks on him out of the actual thread guys, and attack the general "disrespectful public" if you wish.

I apologize, I've had enough of watching this kid be torn apart, and since I've been part of it a bit, I apologize to you Jamie.

- Eugenia

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by Eugenia Gabrielov

M Walker, while I think you make a strong point that disrespect isn't good and while Jamie may have done it before, the idea of removing him from the forum is a bit harsh. Please take the more personal attacks on him out of the actual thread guys, and attack the general "disrespectful public" if you wish.

This is not a personal attack that miketwalker is making, rather a reference to a pattern of disrespectful behaviour, that is pretty clear to anyone who regularly reads these forums. Amanda earlier said she was going to leave this thread open as an example of inappropriate behaviour. miketwalker was just pointing out a possible consequence for this type of behaviour.

I would hardly say that anyone has been torn apart. The responses in this thread have just accurately pointed out poor posting behaviour.

[EddieMcD]

Originally Posted by JVN

Yeah... great. I'm glad it felt good to quote people out of context.
You portrayed a few of my personal friends in a pretty bad light.

I do not appreciate it.
I'm sure, neither do they.

I'm going to be pretty careful not to ever say anything even remotely open in front of you, and I urge others to do the same. I don't want you scribbling down my words in your notebook to be repeated later.

Things said in a small group, or in confidence... are NOT to be repeated in a public forum. To do so (again) shows a complete lack of COURTESY.

Ok, for the record (and a defense of myself), everything on here was either A: said on these boards, B: said in the tigerbolt chat (a lot of those are from practically ancient times), or C: quoted with permission. I don't have a notebook which I write things down in, and I don't repeat things told in confidence. The whole quote list (which was originally my signiture for the VB2 boards) was all in good fun, and people knew that. I'm sorry some people can't see that nowadays.

Seing as I am getting off topic, my opinion on this whole matter with Astronouth and his idea is to delete this thread entirely. Not just lock it, but delete it. I won't defend his second post, but his first post was an honest mistake. I say we just make it disappear and forget about it. Yes, it will exist in the back of some people's minds, but IMO, it'll be better for everybody this way. Again, just my opinion.

Keep flying,
-Eddie

[Eugenia Gabrielov]

My apologies to miketwalker for calling it torn apart. It was a poor choice of words.

Please do note however, that Jamie's last post was #14. This is post #35 or so. I would say if this occurred for me, then I would have gotten the point by now. I'm sure many people here have had a thread where they posted something that ended up being criticized. There is nothing wrong with your criticism, but at this point there is no longer much reason to do it except for to pm him with courtesy about the issue. There is no grounds to kick him off Chief Delphi, as mentioned above.

I give up on this thread because even if I defend Jamie because as a friend someone should, I understand there is no use to do that at this point.

Thank you and good luck,
Eugenia

[Ken Leung]

I would like to request a thread split for this thread.

The original idea might not have been the brightest thing, and people gave some constructive criticism about the idea and that was ok. Thats how you learn. The worst that could happen to that kind of discussion is it get killed by the overwhelming amount of post against the idea, but that's nothing new around here. This thread could've ended with a "It is not ok to use the name Chiefdelphi.com without asking for premission first" and that would've been fine.

It was too bad the thread got turned into another "appropriate CD forum behavior" and went completely off topic. It just makes the forum so much more incomprehensible when a thread keep resurfacing and people have to trace the entire discussion just to see where it is heading. You wouldn't want to read a book about baseball and in half way it turn into talking about appropriate sports journalism.

It is very hard to define exactly how you should post in this forum, but keep in mind that we want this place to be beneficial to the community, not waste their time. I read up to the wonderful post #25 of Katie, and got nothing more after that.

SO, if people want to discuss more about right and wrong in the CD forum, we can split a bunch of the posts in here into comments/suggestion and start a new thread. If I were to start a new thread and split some post over (though I can't), I would move everything starting with #29, though #31 and #35 should have a copy in this thread as well.

I hope nothing more get posted except something that's related to the original topic. Not deleting this thread would show people what not to do, but letting it go on uncontrollably would make things too choatic for the good of the CD forum

[Astronouth7303]

Originally Posted by Amanda Morrison

Wow. A new low. We're getting pretty good at lowering the bar, aren't we?

Brandon, Joe, Mike, Mike, and the rest of the ChiefDelphi guys - I urge you to trademark or copyright your name immediately... especially if people (whom you are incredibly gracious to lend the use of your forums) plan on capitalizing on it.

Not for profit. Any profit would go entirely to Team 47 or would be split better than 50/50 with them (47 getting the larger portion).

[Amanda Morrison]

Whether you work out a 60/40 or 99/1 system with them, you are still getting profit.

[Brandon Martus]

.. after asking for permission, I would hope.
...otherwise that's pretty rude, profit-sharing, or not.

[David Kelly]

Originally Posted by Astronouth7303

Not for profit. Any profit would go entirely to Team 47 or would be split better than 50/50 with them (47 getting the larger portion).

That is ridiculous. You shouldn't deserve a dime of money selling anything with Chief Delphi's name on it. It's pretty disrespectful and greedy that you would even try to say that you would keep some of the money.


Just keep adding more fuel to the fire there buddy...

[Dorienne]

I agree with previous posts..
Copyright your name guys. And also, Jamie, I have to agree with Dave on this one. It is rude that you use Chief Delphi's name, and you get money. It's obnoxious and ludicrous. I'm sorry, but I also request a close on this thread. It's getting way too out of hand.
--Dori

[Billfred]

I've got to agree.

If I see a post announcing the sale of Chief Delphi T-Shirts, that team number had better read 0047, and the money had better go there.

If I see a post announcing the sale of D5Robotics T-shirts, that team number had better read 1293, and the money had better go there.

If I see a post announcing the sale of JVN thongs...well, let's just hope that day never arrives.

But right now, the plan is not there in more ways than one. Unless the Pontiac crew wants to do the shirts, I see no benefit to this thread. This is becoming too heated, even for someone used to the heat in the south.

[Astronouth7303]

Originally Posted by David Kelly

That is ridiculous. You shouldn't deserve a dime of money selling anything with Chief Delphi's name on it. It's pretty disrespectful and greedy that you would even try to say that you would keep some of the money.

I realized that after I logged off. I'm not sure if the other portion would go to FIRST itself or my team.

[Brandon Martus]

If the proceeds are going to FIRST, why don't you just put FIRST's logo on it?