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| View Poll Results: Please Pick TWO!!! (Just For FUN) | |||
| Republican |
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29 | 43.94% |
| Democrat |
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21 | 31.82% |
| Independent |
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10 | 15.15% |
| Other |
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1 | 1.52% |
| Bush |
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31 | 46.97% |
| Kerry |
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24 | 36.36% |
| Nader |
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7 | 10.61% |
| Cobb |
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1 | 1.52% |
| Badnarik |
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2 | 3.03% |
| Undecided |
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4 | 6.06% |
| Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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I just wanted to see how many would vote outside their party.
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So check these out: Kerry or Bush and why? John Kerry: Good, bad, or both? Women and the draft Saddam Hussein wants a debate Should we bomb/strike Iraq? What is your Favorite Bushism? Democrat or Republican? Your thoughts on war Politics, war, MTV American "selectiveness" Iraq Draft War If you take a look at those threads, you'll notice all of them deal with politics, and all of them are closed. It's not a coincidence. Most were started with good intention, to find out how people felt about the subject at hand. BUt it turns out, there are just some things that are too hard to discuss on these boards, without the threads turning into flame wars. The threads start out OK, usually, but by the end of the first page or so it starts to get pretty nasty. Another thread on politics is only going to cause problems and will be closed. It's been tried and tried again, and we just can't have a civil debate about the subject without flaming or putting someone down. I'm pretty sure you can descern poster's political party preference from those threads - if not, try PMing them and asking for a clarification. Last edited by Katie Reynolds : 13-09-2004 at 12:04. |
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Friends,
I can understand why it is that political discussions are frowned upon in this forum; it’s because they bring to light our differences, which contrast remarkably with the brotherhood of FIRST. That said, we cannot believe for one second that FIRST can exist in a vacuum. We cannot believe that the rest of the world will see it our way if only we ignore it exists. I became a mentor because I know that the youth of today are our future; and, I believe that the ones from FIRST will lead the way. That is reason enough to believe that political debate on ChiefDelphi is a good thing and should be encouraged. It doesn’t matter that it may turn ugly. What matters is that we learn how it turns ugly and thereby learn to rise above it. |
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![]() But, on a side note... Woot! Bush is ahead! Also, what about the "Schwarzenegger for President" movement? ![]() |
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Bush may be ahead in some of the polls, but his double digit lead is down to mid single digits in most polls I’ve seen this morning, and even within the margin of error in a few. A lot of key states for both candidates are very close. My family has recently become involved in a massive nationwide grassroots debtor (as in consumer bankruptcy debtors) campaign. This movement has the possibility to turn out over 100,000 votes (just from people who have filed bankruptcy, not including their friends or family) in a few key states. As for Schwarzenegger, you should probably wait on him until after he’s completed a term as my governor (not to mention most of his policies don’t match the average republican). Many politically savvy Californians were talking about Gray Davis possibly running for president back in 2001 when he was fighting to get Bush to step in and impose price controls on the energy price gouging by Enron, et al. We all know where that ended up. The moral of that story is “don’t count your chickens before they hatch (especially in politics).” |
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. I was assuming that Dana Rohrabacher's proposed amendment was passed and ratified. I also assumed that Ryan was talking about that constitutional amendment movement, and not just a “run Arnie” movement.<edit> I'll make you right-wingers a deal. You take back the 22nd amendment, and we’ll give you foreign-born people who have been citizens for 25+ years. Bill Clinton vs. Arnold Schwarzenegger? Any takers? ![]() </edit> Last edited by Bill Gold : 17-09-2004 at 09:03. |
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Sounds good to me.
Does anyone here remember when Comedy Central had the movement to give Clinton four more years back in 2000? Given the choices back then (or now, in a way), I'd be very interested to see how that would break down. |
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Yeah, the only reason I said that thing about Schwarzenegger was I had just read a CNN.com article poking fun at Nadar and the Arnold people.
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Eh dont know if i could give you the 22nd amendment, if you look pass it being more then an amendment its more of a tradition. Up till FDR that was never a amendment. George Washington was elected for 2 terms, then when he was up for relection the people came and asked him if wanted to be King and thats when he said he will not run anymore or be king and went and retired. This was tradition all the way up to FDR convincing the people to elect him four times because of the great depression and war. Then after FDR is when we made the 22nd amendment.
Sorry i just had a US government test on Friday and that was one of our essay questions In my personal opiinion i am in favor of the 22nd amendment, even if its a good president no one should be able to serve more then two full terms. And as for schwarzeneggar i think we should keep it that you have to be a US born Sorry i was just working on government hw also so that is my $0.02 Last edited by Ryan Albright : 18-09-2004 at 16:36. |
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I saw Nadar will win. I feel bad for him...id vote for him if i can vote. I think that Bush isnt doing a very good job with this "conflict" (i dont call it a war for various reasons). If Kerry wins, he wont do much of a better job than Bush is doin right now. But yet, if Nadar wins, everyone will hate him and he wouldnt know what to do. But for right now Nadar would have my vote.
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If you’re going to nonchalantly cast your vote for whoever is listed first on your ballot, or if you vote for a candidate only because you feel sorry for them, or if you throw your vote away by not voting at all then you have no one to blame for the inadequacies and shortcomings of this country but yourself. You have not, in good faith, supported the candidate with whom you share beliefs that are important to you as a human being. You must also recognize the repercussions of the vote you cast. In a perfect world a third, fourth or fifth party candidate for president would be viable, but this is not a perfect country (we can discuss the history of political parties, etc. if you want). Many of us are registered voters in very important places for this upcoming election, and need to understand that voting for Ralph Nader instead of John Kerry (if you have moderate to liberal social beliefs, and/or conservative to liberal fiscal beliefs) is counterproductive to your social and fiscal interests. Due to his inevitable defeat, voting for Nader while harboring either misgivings towards Bush or ambivalent to supportive feelings towards Kerry makes it more likely that George Bush will be re-elected. It is necessary, as a voter, for you to keep yourself informed as to the candidates’ positions so that you can better decide for yourself which candidate deserves your support and in the end your vote. If you believe that George Bush is failing our country in Iraq/Afghanistan, and you believe that John Kerry might or definitely will do a better job than the status quo isn’t that a good reason to vote for Kerry (assuming, of course, that you agree with his positions on other issues, or that you don’t agree more with Bush)? You also must be weary of many political advertisements. Political advertisements are the candidates’ “cliffs’ notes” of their positions and plans, and there is mass deception on both sides in these advertisements. There are many scare tactics used claiming that one side will ban bibles, require everyone to go to church, ban guns, require everyone to own guns, ban abortions, or require every woman to have an abortion, etc. To really enlighten yourself you should read each candidate’s platform, each party’s platform, and independent groups’ assessments of their plans and be able to read between the lines (recognizing possible bias one way or another from certain sources) and then decide for yourself which you agree with more. http://www.factcheck.org/ You must take a proactive role in politics or at the very least be a politically knowledgeable American if you want to change things in America for what you believe is the better. |
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