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Unread 10-04-2002, 00:24
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A Water Competition Next Year?!?!?!

Was there ever a FIRST Competition where the playing field was filled with water like a pool? Wouldn't it be cool if this would happen next year? Imagine all the different kinds of robot designs from using motors and using simple paddles. Tell me some of you ideas.
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i can't even begin to imagine the shorts and potential electrocutions...
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A lot of dead robots with no fixen um.........
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I have already thought of building a "boat robot".
But I just thought, didn't do anything else...
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You want to see some water robots? Check out this site for the "Water Spiders" project :

http://www.remo.net/spiders/

also :

http://remo.net/spiders/proposals/caparts_proposal.htm

http://www.remo.net/rac/

Now, is this great stuff or what?????
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Here's a photo of one performance of the Water Spiders. (If I do this correctly, that is - about a 50-50 chance)
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how come this topic comes up EVERY year?
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Water Competition is something we hear every year....

Ive been in FIRST for 3 years and my team has been involved since 92'. Every year this topic comes up and there are huge debates over it...it has never happened and i am sure that it wont for many years to come.
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It'll never happen.

Electricity and Water don't mix. Found that out the hard way.
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i think hazards would be cool

i joined first last year. the closet thing to a hazard ive seen is a bridge. I think that ramps, bridges etc would make the game alot better. personally i think water is just a bad idea. Batteries and water dont mix. I think maybe a rock pit or a sand trap would be fine. Teams would have to make durable robots. i DONT want anything extreme such as fire water big spikes or hammers attacking you. just a change of the playing surface. a 2 level playing field would also work. biggest rule change should be weight. change from 130 to 150 i know you have to bring it out every round so thats why we cant have 200 pound bots. the game this year was alot better than last. lets just hope dean stays on this path.
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Just a thought for the nay-sayers...

In the summer of 1999 we were working very hard to introduce the idea of the (then) new Southern California Regional Competition. A scrimmage match was held at the NASA Jet Propulsion Lab in Pasadena, and lots of local potential sponsors and prospective teams were invited. The scrimmage was staged on the central mall at JPL, in front of the main headquarters building.

We figured, southern California in the early summer, holding it outside would be perfect, right? Wrong! Fourteen teams (I don't remember all the teams that were there, but the BeachBots and the Archer School for Girls stick out in my memory) arrived early that morning, just to be greeted by a day of rain and drizzle cascading on to the uncovered play field. We thought we would have to call off the event, but someone suggested we give it a shot and see what happens.

All fourteen robots worked successfully all day. Throughout the matches, robots ran across the field in up to two inches of standing water. After matches the teams took robots back to the pits (the only dry areas under small tents) to wipe them down and sop up the excess water. But they were all constructed well enough that I don't think we had one short all day, and every machine was still running by the end of the scrimmage. All the teams had paid attention to the rules (yes, everyone actually read all the rules back then! ) and all electical connections were thoroughly taped and/or insulated, and withstood the moisture for the duration of their exposure to the rain. We were all pretty impressed by how well the robots (and team members) were able to withstand the extra "environmental constraint" and continue on. Somewhere in my files I have some great photos of rooster tails of water shedding off the wheels of some of the robots as they raced around the field.

Just one more point in the empirical data set of FIRST robot performances...

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Neato Dave, can you find the picture?

That's fun and all, but i think that it would be a challenge if a 3 foot tall robot were sitting in 5 feet of water....I can see it already! *Blub blub blub*

Ricksta121, I agree with your thoughts on the ramps and/or bridges. I think the problem came when FIRST tried to make them MORE then just obsticles giving them point values, etc...

I'll just say I'm glad I'm not the one who has to come up with the game every year!
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I'll just say I'm glad I'm not the one who has to come up with the game every year!
I think for all our sake, we all are glad you are not the one that hast to come up with the game every year !!!
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FINALLY, a competition where duct tape would be used for it's original purpose!
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imagine the possibilities of a water competition... like 4 to 6 inches of water on the field... you could have boat bots or driving bots... or combinations, the possibilities are just cool

me and my friend stephen actually had a big conversation about this the other day
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