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Re: building a robot transport

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Congrats on getting onto the Forums. I hope you become a frequent poster. To answer your question on gearing, it really depends on the type of motor you intend to use. So if you send us back what motor you want to use I'm sure we'll be able to provide you with gear ratio selections. Good luck with your cart.
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Re: building a robot transport

i agree with wane that we need more information to help you out...please also note that FIRST discourages motorized carts at regionals and nationals. but i would say if you are still going to build one make it as small as possible because that will also have to fit in your pits at regionals.
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Re: building a robot transport

team 1114 had a motorized cart last year, since we're getting different motors this year i suggest using the old drill motors with the helical gearboxes, i don't think anymore gearing is required after that, just attach the wheels directly to the gearbox, it seemed to work for them
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Re: building a robot transport

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team 1114 had a motorized cart last year, since we're getting different motors this year i suggest using the old drill motors with the helical gearboxes, i don't think anymore gearing is required after that, just attach the wheels directly to the gearbox, it seemed to work for them
That cart was my little baby. It was an offseason project to determine weather a CVT was viable. As it turns out it was. It used 1 drill motor with the planetary gearbox, and a set of variable diameter pulleys from www.hi-lo.com
They worked by having 2 pulleys that expand and contract. One is spring loaded, while the other one has a handwheel that turns to vary the pulleys diameter.

It worked out quite well for our application, and achieved a speed of 2tf/s in the low end of the CVT and about 8ft/s at the high end. I also played around with the sprocket ratios on the wheel to make it go faster for racing around the halls at school.

I don't think the variable diameter pully system is the way to go for FIRST robots. the system is
1. bulky
2. heavier than many 2-speed designs
3. harder to control than a 2-speed, since you need to have a motor and a potentiometer to change the gear ratios. For our application, we just turned the knob on the bottom manually.
4. Although we never experienced any slippage in the pulleys, the chance exists under high loads.

All in all, building a cart can be a good offseason project, and can be a good test platform for new designs. Or you can just put a sound system in and make it look cool, either way, carts are cool.
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Re: building a robot transport

if the reason anyone is building a motorized cart is so that it stands out, then there are lots more ways to build one. for example you can put a boom box on the cart and power it with a 12 volt battery. or police lights. those will certainly make the robot and the team stand out
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Re: building a robot transport

hmm how bout a disco ball, strobe lights, and a dj, that'll make a cool cart for the pits, lol, i think evryone should keep it simple, the competition is about the robots, not the carts, you can have the greatest looking most complicated cart, but if your bot sucks it really doesn't matter.
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