How many teams in 2005?

[Koko Ed]

Originally Posted by mgreenley

(Checked USFIRST on Oct 19th; 7:56 pm East Coast Time)
753 teams total. It's slowing down, but I expect that its just a lull and will pick up. Congratulations to team 1568 for being the newest member of the FIRST community this year and I hope I see you guys at Nationals (lots of newer teams have some unusually creative solutions to the game)!
After reading the list, has anyone else noticed double-registrations? I can understand a 2 team school maybe, but two identical registrations with the same team number...just a glitch? (And the Israel regional went from 14 teams of a 14 team capacity to a 0 of 0 and you get an error when you search it now...).
By the way, the double-registered teams (I saw) are 47, 53, 71, 103, 116, 120, 126, 148, 151, 175, 190, 191, 241, 401, 451, 499, 616, 812, 829, 843, 972, 1022, 1083, 1104, 1137, 1208, 1216. Are these teams that are signed up for more than one regional and it lists you twice (or three times, etc...), there seems to be a lot of teams for it to be just a random database error.

Michael "The Crate Guy" Greenley, Team 341

P.S. From what I hear, in it's infancy, FIRST allowed teams to change numbers, so certain retired teams have their number in use; I do not think that a list of retired teams is redily available, and you would need to know which teams changed numbers to know which are retired, which are changed and retired and which changed from a number to another leaving a "hole". (Number-changing has since been disallowed).

I think the double registered teams are teams that have registered for the championship.

[tkwetzel]

Originally Posted by omutton

Is there a list of all the retired team numbers? Also, what is the link for the list of teams signed up? I think that the highest rookie number this year will be 1624.....random, but who knows?

Originally Posted by mgreenley

P.S. From what I hear, in it's infancy, FIRST allowed teams to change numbers, so certain retired teams have their number in use; I do not think that a list of retired teams is redily available, and you would need to know which teams changed numbers to know which are retired, which are changed and retired and which changed from a number to another leaving a "hole". (Number-changing has since been disallowed).

omutton asked for retired team numbers, not actual teams. The retired numbers are all the numbers not being used up to the new teams. This is because since 1999 or 2000, the teams have all been consecutively numbered. But a question I have is if a team wants to take a year off...to gain funds and what not, can they register the following year with their original team number or do they have to get a new number?

[Billfred]

As far as I know, yes, a returning team would keep its number. And any other status, such as being a 1992 team, Chairman's, etc. (The 1992 team thing is from WildStang, which took 1993 off if memory serves me right.)

[rachakate]

30, 35, 70, 97, 102, 104, 118, 140, 167, 203, 235, 249, 253, 256, 258, 259, 276, 311, 321, 322, 373, 374, 391, 398, 410, 434, 441, 442, 443, 444, 446, 448, 449, 480, 492, 507, 535, 550, 569, 570, 581, 588, 598, 605, 606, 611, 634, 642, 644, 649, 651, 653, 660, 665, 668, 670, 675, 692, 695, 698, 704, 713, 752, 758, 762, 764, 765, 769, 770, 772, 773, 780, 781, 782, 824, 825, 827, 831, 834, 852, 861, 866, 875, 878, 879, 880, 883, 884, 888, 898, 902, 906, 908, 912, 913, 919, 931, 933, 937, 938, 940, 942, 943, 948, 953, 954, 959, 964, 966, 968, 970, 973, 979, 982, 992, 997, 998, 1005, 1010, 1011, 1017, 1030, 1034, 1035, 1036, 1040, 1043, 1045, 1046, 1049, 1055, 1056, 1058, 1059, 1064, 1067, 1072, 1075, 1081, 1082, 1088, 1098, 1100, 1106, 1109, 1113, 1115, 1120, 1122, 1125, 1131, 1133, 1136, 1141, 1144, 1147, 1148, 1151, 1152, 1158, 1164, 1165, 1166, 1169, 1182, 1185, 1187, 1191, 1201, 1204, 1206, 1210, 1214, 1215, 1221, 1224, 1225, 1227, 1228, 1229, 1232, 1239, 1248, 1255, 1259, 1260, 1263, 1274, 1281, 1287, 1290, 1292, 1294, 1295, 1296, 1297, 1298, 1299, 1300, 1308, 1309, 1311, 1312, 1315, 1324, 1325, 1329, 1331, 1332, 1334, 1338, 1339, 1342, 1343, 1347, 1352, 1356, 1361, 1364, 1365, 1368, 1380, 1387, 1391, 1393, 1395, 1401, 1406, 1409, 1411, 1412, 1416, 1419, 1420, 1425, 1426, 1427, 1428, 1429, 1430, 1432, 1433, 1437, 1439, 1441, 1442, 1448, 1453, 1455, 1456, 1459, 1461, 1463, 1464, 1465, 1466, 1467, 1470, 1472, 1475, 1476, 1477, 1478, 1479, 1481, 1482, 1484, 1485, 1489, 1490, 1492, 1495, 1496, 1497


Wow - That's a lot of teams that Raised the Bar, but haven't signed up to participate this year.

[Billfred]

435 isn't registered for anything?

Hope everything's alright up there--it'd be a shame for the National Champions to be unable to defend their title!

[rachakate]

Originally Posted by Billfred

435 isn't registered for anything?

Hope everything's alright up there--it'd be a shame for the National Champions to be unable to defend their title!

My mistake. I went through the whole list, just to make sure no one was on there that shouldn't have been.

[dez250]

OK maybe i can help many of you out and inform you as to why many teams show up as double and soon maybe triple on the FIRST "database" here. What really is happening is the web address that you are linking through is called a query. What that is, is a string of commands for a database that is accessing the information you are seeking in the query. Well as it appears, this query that people keep referring to is really asking to "show all teams registered at any and all events". Thus meaning if a team is registered at more then one event, they will appear for each event. So you will continue to have multiple teams show up multiple times as they register for more events, and as the 28th of October comes up when second regional registration opens, this database will more or less just be cluttered.

[Denman]

Originally Posted by Manoel

555 teams and the newest rookie is from England...
Team 1542, exscitec/Imperial College & Issac Newton Centre, from London. Pretty cool!

yeh, unfortunatly we havn't been able to contact them...
we are actually based in cambridge, which is about 40 miles from london (about an hour by train or car) so it would be nice to tlak to them or to mentor or help them in any way we could

[Jeremy]

we aren’t signed up yet but we will be we are making some final organization with the team because about 90% of the team this year are freshmen but we will be signed up don’t know for which comps though but we are trying to go to 2 regionals and nats "that’s if we have the money for all that"

[Wetzel]

Originally Posted by tkwetzel

omutton asked for retired team numbers, not actual teams. The retired numbers are all the numbers not being used up to the new teams. This is because since 1999 or 2000, the teams have all been consecutively numbered. But a question I have is if a team wants to take a year off...to gain funds and what not, can they register the following year with their original team number or do they have to get a new number?

Early on, teams got their numbers for that year in the order they registered in. In 1999, teams were listed alphabeticaly by sponser and given a number. Those numbers have remained since, with new teams being added at the end as they registered. Teams that have droped out are not reused, but the name stays with the school, for the most part. FIRST will work with a team that is reforming at a former school if they want to reclaim their team number.

For example, team 73 has come back after a year or two of not competing, but they still have their old team number.


Wetzel

[Wetzel]

Originally Posted by mtaman02

just think the more teams that compete the newer Robot controllers are going to have to be and the frequent change of the RC - that was the only reason why 2004 one was a different model to handle teams and battery backup / c++

Grammar helps us to understand your posts. It was very difficult to figure out what you meant without sentences or commas.

The old RC could handle the team number but just had a three digit LCD. I don't think that more teams will mean that the RC will have to change more often. Someone else can tell you how many teams the current RC will support, but I believe that we will not be reaching that point for a long time.


Wetzel

[Wacko324]

Originally Posted by mtaman02

just think the more teams that compete the newer Robot controllers are going to have to be and the frequent change of the RC - that was the only reason why 2004 one was a different model to handle teams and battery backup / c++

I doubt we will be seeing a new controller because of team numbers because the current controller goes up to team 4095 (hopefully I did my math right).

[mtaman02]

sorry about that wetzel, i typed that message early yesterday morning and i retyped a reply just now but deleted =(. in any case you are right the OI's can handle more teams i checked with OI's prior to 2003 and they can handle greater team numbers all you really gotta do is solder a fourth digit lcd to the board. the only real difference between OI's is the programming ( at least thats what innov. first told me when i ordered a 2001 OI this yr. If i'm not mistaken to set team numbers it uses binary. and binary can go a long way. If any major change is done to the OI it will probably be its size. =) any way getting back to the topic at hand:

how many teams in 2005 : estimated 999 - 1250
by 2007: estimated 1400 - 1500

[Andrew]

Looks like we've made it to 755 teams by Monday, Oct. 25.

Three more days til second event reg opens.

[Andrew]

Today's the day for second event registration (10/28/04). So far, there are 791 teams signed up. After today, it's going to get harder to count teams.

It looks like we might not break 1000 this year. We'll have to see what happens when the NASA grants and the FIRST $1000 team assistance grants are awarded.