Crazy NEW Idea!

[Joe Matt]

The biggest problem is that you really can't force a team to play. If you think about it, if they need fixing or they are saving their gearboxes and batteries for the finals, they will probably drop out.

Also, in popularity contests there are those who pick the 'runt' to go against the big guys just to watch suffering. I don't think FIRST teams, and FIRST, should be put thought this.

Don't forget that Champs ALWAYS runs over time, so why should FIRST stage more unnecessary competitions? Plus, each one costs money.

I don't want to be a jerk about it, but you wanted input. But otherwise, I think this will be great for an off season competition, like IRI.

[Kyle Love]

Originally Posted by JosephM

The biggest problem is that you really can't force a team to play. If you think about it, if they need fixing or they are saving their gearboxes and batteries for the finals, they will probably drop out.

Also, in popularity contests there are those who pick the 'runt' to go against the big guys just to watch suffering. I don't think FIRST teams, and FIRST, should be put thought this.

Don't forget that Champs ALWAYS runs over time, so why should FIRST stage more unnecessary competitions? Plus, each one costs money.

I don't want to be a jerk about it, but you wanted input. But otherwise, I think this will be great for an off season competition, like IRI.

It's meant to be all in fun. And hopefully people would have the mindset to actually choose good teams. But, of course, there will probably be a "runt" but I would hope teams wouldn't beat up on anyone team at all.

The "Peoples Choice" thing would be held right after the National finals.(or that's my idea for it.) If teams play the rounds they are meant to be played, there shouldn't be much more cost involved. But, as always, a team could break something. A team could also break something doing a demo, like us, we broke a part off of our "scoop" at a Purdue Demo.

Right now, IRI would be too small to hold a "Peoples Choice" comp. Or it would have to be a lot smaller. Right now, it seems like this would have to be an idea for a 3-on-3 match at IRI. Just set up like Final matches, so 2vs2 at one time. But, that would mean a lot of well deserving teams would be left out...

-Kyle

[RogerR]

i don't think that an off-season event would be a valid option. its hard enough to get money to go to nationals, in georgia. if this event is gong to draw a geographically diverse group of teams, then its going to have to happen at nationals, when you have a relatively high concentration of these top-choice teams under one roof. but as its already been stated, doing it at the end of nationals isn't plausable either, because of time constraints.

so why not have it on the first day during practice rounds? take 15 or so teams from each division and put them into a temporary "people's choice" division for practice day. this division would compete on einstein field (assuming its not gone or in use on practice day next year) for practice day, and then return normal divisions for the last two days for qualifacation and final rounds.

[Kyle Love]

Originally Posted by RogerR

i don't think that an off-season event would be a valid option. its hard enough to get money to go to nationals, in georgia. if this event is gong to draw a geographically diverse group of teams, then its going to have to happen at nationals, when you have a relatively high concentration of these top-choice teams under one roof. but as its already been stated, doing it at the end of nationals isn't plausable either, because of time constraints.

so why not have it on the first day during practice rounds? take 15 or so teams from each division and put them into a temporary "people's choice" division for practice day. this division would compete on einstein field (assuming its not gone or in use on practice day next year) for practice day, and then return normal divisions for the last two days for qualifacation and final rounds.

GREAT IDEA! I will need some help with someone pretty "high up" in FIRST. For this to be a Thursday practice day match, I will need to have some adult with some way to get the idea up to FIRST. If you have any ideas on who I can email or if your the person that can help, let me know.

-Kyle

thats a good idea Kyle! your the coolest for thinkin of that. If i have ideas about that to help ya out ill post them.
-Court-

[AmyPrib]

Originally Posted by RogerR

so why not have it on the first day during practice rounds? take 15 or so teams from each division and put them into a temporary "people's choice" division for practice day. this division would compete on einstein field (assuming its not gone or in use on practice day next year) for practice day, and then return normal divisions for the last two days for qualifacation and final rounds.

One concern would be is that Practice day is for teams to get their bugs out (if they still have them after regionals) and to make fixes from previous events. So, many teams may not really be ready to do something like this on Practice day... especially if their goal is to make changes or improvements all day Thursday so they run properly for the "real" matches. Some teams might be hesitant to participate in "extra" matches, so as to avoid unnecessary damage and save themselves for the meat of the competition. I suppose teams could bow out from playing if they were chosen though.

Other concern would be that since this is a People's Choice, the people would need some time to see who's who. If I don't know 70% of the teams robots at Nationals, my choice would be pretty biased to teams I'm very familiar with.
As far as time, Thursday would be ideal, but as far as other considerations, maybe not. Not sure when would be an all around ideal time for this at Nationals. Good idea, just a matter of when and how.

[[527]phil]

thats a cool idea, i'd definatly vote for that