"Mosh"

[Billfred]

I see the two parts the other way.

Perhaps I'm nuts, but I don't think "Mosh" is Em's best work. I like it, but it's not his best. (For some reason, I don't think current events-based songs across all genres are as good as their artists' equivalents.)

The video, however, I think is a score. Sure, there's been plenty of anime-esque videos lately. But it works here.

[shyra1353]

I saw the video yesterday on BET .. i liked it .. i didn't however get the Lloyd Banks bit (he was a photo on the wall and was then changed into anime) .. but i didnt hear any of his rapping .. but maybe it was just me .. i was falling asleep at the time ...

As for the direct hit at Bush .. doesnt bother me .. I think artists have the right to express their political opinions. It isnt the first time a celebrity has expressed their political views. It happens all the time. Ashton Kutcher said the other day that he voted for Bush in the past election and said that "he got punked"

And I agree with Billfred .. it's definitely not his best work .. but it is still pretty good ... I'm still liking Just Lose It though .. finding it pretty hilarious ...

[Jack Jones]

I tend not to follow political advice from a guy who’s lost a defamation suit to the plaintiff - his mommy, avoided a felony assault conviction (pistol whipping a guy who was kissing his wife in a bar) by pleading guilty to carrying a concealed weapon, and plead no contest to pulling his 9mm on some upright citizens known collectively as Insane Clown Posse.

No doubt that artists have the right to express their political opinions. However, if justice had been served, Eminem would not have the right to vote his opinion, he’d be a convicted felon.

"If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. “ - Alice Cooper (artist and shock rock legend)

You have the right to remain unimpressed!

Eminem is awsome.

[Raven_Writer]

I don't think it's Eminem's best work, but I do think that it gets his point across.

After watching it again a few 10x's (), I've realized that it is a pure-direct hit at Bush. I do not, however, believe that he's saying "Vote for Kerry", just "Don't vote for Bush". I know some aren't gonna see it that way though, but hey.

I think the concept of the video is still old, but I like how it all works together.

[Joshua May]

I'm not usually the biggest rap fan, but I have to say I like it.

Looks like the video was made by the same people who did Chronic Future's "Time and Time Again" same style and a few times the same or similar characters appear too.

[MikeDubreuil]

I'm going to agree with Jack Jones and add that that looking for a role model in Eminem is simply asinine. He's not awesome, he's a promoter in making this country's morals rapidly decline.

As with anything that Eminem puts out you have to take it with a grain of salt. Eminem would rather shock you then actually give you meaningful advice. This of course all in the name of selling records. He's another one of the artists who love the fame and money but constantly complain about how tough life is because they are just too popular and can't go in public without the nuisance of being recognized. That in itself shows you how intelligent he is.

Anyway to the video Mosh...

It seems that the main message is that Bush should not be in office. We secretly have Osama Bin Laden in custody and use him as a tool to incite fear in Americans. We then direct that fear into Iraq for the purpose of obtaining oil. All the while sending young Americans to die. He seems to think the US still has a major problem with racism. Yet doesn't really elaborate on how George Bush is involved with that. The young woman being evicted from her apartment is a direct attack against Bush's new tax policy. Kerry is never really endorsed but simply made a reference to. The end of the video encourages people to vote but never endorses a candidate. Since he doesn't even mention Nader I would say he wants people to vote for Kerry.

[Adam Y.]

Here's my take: I don't think it's right to try and make people vote for the other runner. I do know that the song is also a direct hit at Bush, but it's more of a "Vote for Kerry" concept. The lyrics are good, they get the point across (on a "Bush is bad" theory). The video is getting old (I've seen so many anime-style videos lately).

Too bad it doesn't work. I was really amazed by the fact that most of the celebrities end up hurting the person they are supporting than helping. The most disperaging of which has to be Micheal Moore where 24% of the people were voting for Bush and 4% where voting for Kerry because of him. The numbers are quite lower for all of the other celebrities but generally the trends stay the same.

[suneel112]

I saw eminem performing "mosh" yesterday. I think that is the way rap is supposed to be, instead of making threats to random law enforcement officers, it is time to blame the real people for the country's problems. It wasn't excellent rap, but it was a powerful rap with an even stronger message. Way to go, Eminem!

[Wetzel]

Originally Posted by MikeDubreuil

He seems to think the US still has a major problem with racism..

We do.


Wetzel

[Bill Gold]

Originally Posted by Jack Jones

However, if justice had been served, Eminem would not have the right to vote his opinion, he’d be a convicted felon.

This is an incorrect statement. Felons can vote in many states, especially those who are not on parole. But even in some states felons on parole can vote. This is a state by state issue, and this myth that all convicted felons in the USA are barred from voting needed to be debunked. I’m just sorry I couldn’t correct you before election day, in case you had inadvertently scared a felon away from the polls who legally had a right to vote.

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As for morals… What you find moral, I may find immoral, and vice versa. To say that Eminem is responsible or partially responsible for the decline in our country’s morality is a subjective statement.

I also think that you shouldn’t just dismiss endorsements by celebrities or musicians just because they’re famous. You shouldn’t necessarily follow your favorite actor to the polls, but you should listen to them like you would listen to your brother, sister, friend, or neighbor. They (usually) have good and well thought out reasons for endorsing and campaigning for their candidate of choice.

I think it’s very close-minded to dismiss people just because they’re an entertainer, an author, or a film-maker. Some of them have quite a lot of insightful things to say (Bad Religion is a great example). Celebrities are people, nothing more and nothing less. You should give them the same courtesy you’d give anyone else. No one can force you to listen to people, but you need to realize that it doesn’t hurt you to give it a try. It also helps to read the newspaper especially if you’re a politician.
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Read Wetzel's post below. He's correct.
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[Joe Matt]

Originally Posted by Jack Jones

"If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. “ - Alice Cooper (artist and shock rock legend)

Didn't he want to release a pro-Bush alblum to counter act all the anit-Bush stuff? Funny how things work.

[Adam Y.]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeDubreuil
He seems to think the US still has a major problem with racism..


We do.

Yeah and Eminem is part of the problem. How does he think he could get away with saying that when he has gotten into so much trouble about his comments about gays.

[Joe Matt]

Originally Posted by Adam Y.

Yeah and Eminem is part of the problem. How does he think he could get away with saying that when he has gotten into so much trouble about his comments about gays.

Yet Jerry Falwell can get away with it? It's his opinion, and IMHO if he says something you don't like, DON'T SUPPORT HIM. We're all entitled to our own opinion on things, just because he's a celebrity dosn't mean he should censor himself.

[Billfred]

I'll take that a step further.

If you don't agree with him, ignore him completely. Tune him out, don't protest, don't do anything. If the only mentions of him come from him, then the public is largely going to tune out. It's the same way with bullies (not saying that Em is, but the example is true).