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Unread 22-11-2004, 02:50
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Re: Have you ever had fish as a "pet"? If so look here please!

I second that, beta fish are really tough fish, you just can't keep more than one per bowl. Sunlight won't hurt the fish, unless its some really radical weather. Sunlight will increase the growth rate of the algae in the tank, though. Of all the creatures said to keep the tank algae free, snails work best, they live fairly long (except when they crawl out of the water, shivel up, and die). The algae eater fish are completely useless unless you have an enourmous tank for it to wander around (its fun to watch them eat), otherwise they die pretty quick.
Goldfish, acutally, don't need the whole complex tank system (a water filter at most, for less tank cleaning), just some clean water and food will keep them happy for a long time (long time as in way past a year). Just be careful changing their water, if its really dirty, and you put the fish in clean water, it dies of shock. Either gradually clean the water, or not let the tank get really dirty in the first place.
Also, at best, try to use some sort of filtered water, a lot of fish die due to contaminants tap water.
Also, about your cat, a mesh cover will prevent the cat from sticking its paws into the tank, you also need to worry about the cat knocking the fish bowl over.
Yes, I have fishes as pets, two beta's. I'm trying to build one of them a macquarium.
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Re: Have you ever had fish as a "pet"? If so look here please!

Whatever you do don't name it 'Charley Jesus'. It will die in a week or two if you do.
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Re: Have you ever had fish as a "pet"? If so look here please!

Geez Elgin, you scared me when I saw the title of this thread! I figured it had something to do with that Jay H 237 character here on CD!*

Well, anyways, the tank I have now is a 10 gallon. I still have a 5 gallon in the attic but I upgraded to the 10 about 2 years ago. I'm running a filter, an under gravel filter, and heater with it. The heater is neccesary since I have tropical fish and I keep the tank at 76-78 degrees at all times. This is a freshwater tank.
Now with a small bowl and a goldfish you don't need all this. With normal room tempature the goldfish won't require a heater, plus a heater won't fit in most bowls. I used to have goldfish with a small bowl and I changed the water when it started looking cloudy. This was about every two weeks in the winter and about every week in the summer. I didn't run any filters with the bowl. As for the cat, the above suggestions of screen sounds good. I never had a cat so I never had this problem. Whatever you do don't put solid plastic or anything else to block the top of the tank, the fish do need air. Feed it two to three times a day only. A little "pinch" of food is all it will need. The only other thing I would use in the tank is "Chlor Out" or some other treatment to neutralize Chlorine and Chloramines if you're filling the tank/bowl with tap or well water. For a small bowl 3 or 4 drops and for a tank like mine about 40. If you're only changing part of the water change the drop ratio accordingly. It only costs a few dollars a bottle and it lasts awhile.


*Just because I filmed my fish tank to test my new digital camera with film mode doesn't mean I don't have anything better to do! Now excuse me, I think I'll go look at Ebay and see if there's a life I could bid on.
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Re: Have you ever had fish as a "pet"? If so look here please!

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*Just because I filmed my fish tank to test my new digital camera with film mode doesn't mean I don't have anything better to do!
Ahahahhahaha! I forgot about that.. *See my other post about the online journal and how bad my memory sucks.

Maybe I'll name the fish Jay, or Fuji..
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Re: Have you ever had fish as a "pet"? If so look here please!

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Just be careful changing their water, if its really dirty, and you put the fish in clean water, it dies of shock. Either gradually clean the water, or not let the tank get really dirty in the first place.
I'm glad you mentioned that because that is how I killed my fish when a kid, and I was so horrified at killing poor Kitty (it was one of those sucker-fish that looks like a tiny catfish) that I've never gotten another fish!

Another way of handling the water is to only change half of the water at a time.

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Re: Have you ever had fish as a "pet"? If so look here please!

We had a beta fish in my dorm my entire junior year. I dont know how he survived but somehow he did. They are cool to look at, and dont require a very large tank. We had a nice sized glass tank but they can live in smaller tanks, or even under the roots of plants (dont know if you've ever seen those but i think they are funny). I would definately go for the beta as they can survive pretty much anything.
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Re: Have you ever had fish as a "pet"? If so look here please!

Fish, like all animals, need a certain amount of space and they really don't appreciate goldfish bowls. Thousands of goldfish are given out at fairs and carnivals each year to die in a few days. So goldfish bowls are all over the place.

However, as many above have already stated, Bettas are probably the most hardy things you could keep since they live in stagnant canals from SE Asia. They are part of a group called Anabantids and have specialized gills that allow them to gulp air and therefore survive low oxygen conditions.

But they are tropical fish and need room temps of about 75 degrees to be happy so sitting them on a windowsill means they get all sorts of extremes.

Goldfish, on the other hand are very cheap and tolerant of cold. I keep them outside in a pool all year and they grow about a foot long and breed every spring. They are just a form of Asiatic carp and easily survive a temperate winter. But in a bowl they rapidly get stunted and tend to be very dirty. All freshwater fish have hyperactive kidneys to get rid of the constant influx of water that invades their cells (a hypotonic environment). Therefore, in just a few days or so, a goldfish bowl becomes a sewer and the fish is swimming in essentially urine in a very short time. Therefore they need frequent changes of water to be healthy and most people don't exercise that kind of level of care for such cheap fish.

To keep fish well requires work. They aren't toys.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Have you ever had fish as a "pet"? If so look here please!

Most things about fish have been mentioned already, but there are a couple of things that I would like to mention (I have two fish tanks -- one 55 gallon and another 25 gallon -- all with African ciclids):

1) Putting it near the window will probably give you algae problems. The sunlight may cause your fishbowl to get green in a hurry. (This has already been mentioned, but the proximity to the window may also cause extreme fluctuations in temperature, depending on how drafty it is)

2) To deal with the water changing issue -- what I do is I save our old half gallon and whole gallon milk bottles, fill them up with regular tap water, and keep them in one of our kitchen cabinets. After 24 hours, the chlorine found in tap water will evaporate out of the water and will not harm fish. This way, I know that I will have good water every time I do a water change.

However this does not eliminate the shock issue completely -- in order to survive, fish need a certain amount of bacteria present in the water. These bacteria develop over time as the fish lives in it's environment. However, if you change all of the water at once, the fish will no longer have enough bacteria and likely will die of shock. I recommend changing only 1/4 of the water at a time -- that way there will not be a dangerous lack of bacteria and the bacteria already in the water will have a chance to multiply themselves.

3) Get a book about fish before you buy one. A little bit of literature will help you immensely. Talk to the person at the pet store to figure out what's right for you. Fish can be a bigger commitment than one may think. Depending on the species of fish that you get, the difficulty of care varies greatly. Do your research so that things don't end up in disaster!

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Re: Have you ever had fish as a "pet"? If so look here please!

I know this probably isn't helpful but...
the only "pet fish" i have had are guppies, but those were for my pet garder snake. You put the fish in the snake's water dish and he slithers in there makes a ring around the fish and eats them one at a time. Poor little fish, but it is very cool to watch.
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