No official FIRST game hint yet??

[meaubry]

If you click on John Nuen picture, it takes you to a photo of him standing next to Wildstag 97 robot - the year we played Toroid Terror. Perhaps we will be playing with something other than balls again. (ball type games have been used extensively, except for 3 notable times - inner tubes, floppies, plastic bins) I think Ty might be on to something. Dave does like donuts!

[JVN]

Please Note:

John Neun

JVN

I honestly believe Lavery is talking about my father, and that I (JVN) have nothing to do with the clue.

John

[Arefin Bari]

there is also a "5" written on the pipe in the picture of John Neun.

RbyGal1351 said that 5 main objectives we have to do or an obstacle course with 5 objects in it.

in John V Neun's name, V can stand for 5, in John Neun's Who Am I picture he is standing next to a pipe which has a 5 on it.

According to Beth Sweet, the game also can be a baseball theme.

so, what i am thinking is either a 5 alliance game (wow), or there will be 5 objectives of the game. or maybe, there is an objective on the field that has the most point and you have to work with your opponent to get that objective done. DAVE!!!!!! COME BACK BEFORE WE START PULLING OUR HAIR OFF!!!!!

[Billfred]

I'm surprised, with this five talk, that nobody's mentioned this post. It's spotlighted, too.

[Corey Balint]

I really dont see 5 individual teams going against each other. Kind of takes the between team cooperation out of the game, and also really confuse alliance picking. I think there must be some twist to make all the robots have to cooperate(my link idea). Maybe all the robots compete against each other for certain scores on the field, but get the same overall score. And whoever scores the certain objects, gets extra bonus points added onto the overall score.

[Max Lobovsky]

Originally Posted by JVN

...and we pushed our robots uphill to the field. Both ways! And we didn't have any of those fancy motorized carts!

I cannot believe no one mentioned this. A field sloping down towards the middle? Perhaps Mr. Lavery is referring to JVN. Actually, the missing V may be indicating the V-shaped cross section of the field.

[pakrat]

Well, it seems that my thought proces i backwards form all you other peoples.


Obviously the 3 (all the baseball talk in this thread) is followed by the 4 (posts by dave, as discussed in this thread) and the 5 (from John V Neun) are in consecutive order, for a reason. Maybe theres some sort of sonsecutive theme, like in the finals and stuff, you MUST win 2 CONSECUTIVE matches to move on, or sumthins along those lines

[tkwetzel]

Originally Posted by pakrat

Well, it seems that my thought proces i backwards form all you other peoples.


Obviously the 3 (all the baseball talk in this thread) is followed by the 4 (posts by dave, as discussed in this thread) and the 5 (from John V Neun) are in consecutive order, for a reason. Maybe theres some sort of sonsecutive theme, like in the finals and stuff, you MUST win 2 CONSECUTIVE matches to move on, or sumthins along those lines

Hmm...Dave spending time to figure that out...and leave us with such a subtle clue...I don't know if he would spend time to do that...I think it is much simpler than that.

[pakrat]

Originally Posted by tkwetzel

Hmm...Dave spending time to figure that out...and leave us with such a subtle clue...I don't know if he would spend time to do that...I think it is much simpler than that.

My other thought: 3, 4 , 5 average to make 4. This would reinforce that 4 that dave mentioned. So, maybe some thing very solidly 4 that many people would like to challenge. Thats all i got right now, like maybe 4 way orientation robot, like being able to start sideways (both of them), upside down, and regular. I dunno, just some thoughts

[RbtGal1351]

Originally Posted by pakrat

Obviously the 3 (all the baseball talk in this thread) is followed by the 4 (posts by dave, as discussed in this thread) and the 5 (from John V Neun) are in consecutive order, for a reason. Maybe theres some sort of sonsecutive theme, like in the finals and stuff, you MUST win 2 CONSECUTIVE matches to move on, or sumthins along those lines

well that'd be interesting if you had to win consecutive matches to move on. that'd reali test your robot's durability, like if ur bot broke drastically in one match you'd either hafta be reali reali good at quick fixes or you wouldnt move on... that'd be kinda cool, but i was thinking that it might have something to do with the colon after the name in last year's comp., signifying a sequence or something, like the 3, 4, 5 thing.
now does last years comp relate more to two or three?

*goes off searching for more potential clues*

[pakrat]

Ok, another thin i found. Dave Lavery's post was #16, and this cannot be a coincodence, time for a number analysis again.

Number of posts made be dave according to dave on that day: 4
divide thsat into the post number he had: 16/4 equals 4
the threee main numbers brought up added up: 3+4+5= 12
the average of those numbers: 12/3 = 4


Thats a lot of fours, i thihnk something is there!!! time to keep searching all over the place

[pakrat]

most recent thing: John V Neun has 4 (theres that magic number again) posts in this thread)

[Alex Golec]

Originally Posted by pakrat

most recent thing: John V Neun has 4 (theres that magic number again) posts in this thread)

So that could mean 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1 (new)
or 4 vs 0 (2001)
or 2 vs 2 ("standard"/"modern")
maybe a three on one? with the one-robot side getting some sort of advantage to use?

So does this mean once JVN posts again here the magic average moves up to 4.333? that would make for some sort of a funky alliance- 4 operational and one other.

Going with patterns and all, every two years there is a 'dramatic' change in first.

1993 - water-filled balls
1995 - things that happen during the match count (the FIRST football game)
1997 - team numbers and intertubes
1999 - alliances of 2 on 2 and floppies. Field is rectangularized.
2001 - alliances of 4 versus the clock
2003 - autonomous mode and bins

So every two years there's a change to something in the format. Anyone up for the revival of the hexagon field?

_Alex

[Swampdude]

That "4th post of the day" meant 4 hints out there:

1 - 2 - 3 - 4

here's my hints: 2001 and Pete Best = alternate or human player

[Karthik1]

Originally Posted by Max Lobovsky

I cannot believe no one mentioned this. A field sloping down towards the middle? Perhaps Mr. Lavery is referring to JVN. Actually, the missing V may be indicating the V-shaped cross section of the field.

Wow this is the first guess I can actually agree with, it makes perfect sense, a sloped field. The whole game would be played fighting against gravity. It would be a very interesting game. I this were the case, we probably wouldn't have balls to gather because well they would all end up in the middle of the field, we wouldn't have to work to gather them, all we would have to do is go the center and pick them up. So if the field is like a V then I predict that there will be no balls, or circular objects.

I hope we move on to something different, I mean there are lots of interesting objects out there, besides balls. After all this whole first experience is about experiencing new things, so shouldn't our robot experience new things.