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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

I have a tracker on our team's website.

AiW is my shorthand for ATI's multimedia video card, the All-in-Wonder.

I have Dazzle DVC-80, and it works pretty well, except the highest rez is 352x288. That's not large enough.

I'm sure I/we can make an MPEG1 video using TMPGEnc.

I just have to figure out how to encode from MPEG2 to XviD. I belive now that the problem is when the recording has dropped frames around the beginning. When I encode the video, it dosn't keep spaces where they should be, and the video speeds up.
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

I should be getting a JVC MiniDV camera very soon, and since I can't seem to figure out how to convert these MPEG-2 files, I'm thinking of just recording to the camera from a VCR, or something like that.
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

I have TV-Wonder card

I could set it up to record to mpeg @ 8 mbit/s, and transcode to divx (5.2.2?) @ ~1000 kbit/s

The card's output is a little (really, just a little) washed out, if I have time tommarow, I could tune it a bit. The encoding will take approx 2x the total video, and my connection is 144kbit (IDSL) It would take a while to get to whomever will host the file (via BT, or other)

The encoding should be visually lossless, unless you actually pause the video and put your face up to the screen.

2 questions: is it legal? and Who will host the tracker?
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

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I have a tracker on our team's website.

AiW is my shorthand for ATI's multimedia video card, the All-in-Wonder.

I have Dazzle DVC-80, and it works pretty well, except the highest rez is 352x288. That's not large enough.

I'm sure I/we can make an MPEG1 video using TMPGEnc.

I just have to figure out how to encode from MPEG2 to XviD. I belive now that the problem is when the recording has dropped frames around the beginning. When I encode the video, it dosn't keep spaces where they should be, and the video speeds up.
I think this will convert to XviD. Thanks so much for recording this!
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

I can host the video on my teams website, we have the bandwith capacity for lots of downloads at once.

..and some people dont use bit torrent.
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

So, I was on the TV guide for Directv, and the NASA channel does not have anything FIRST related on the directory for the Kick Off day. Am I simply crazy and not seeing it, or what?
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

A BitTorrent of the webcast would be awesome... i HATE streaming video with a passion, and i just happen to be working when the kickoff is... even tho 1075 is not competing this year, i'm staying involved with FIRST... I'll be at the GT Regional sporting full 1075 wear ... either that or volunteering.
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

I've purchased a MiniDV camcorder with AV input. I'm going to use that, since my computer just can't handle recording with anything else at that quality.

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See Here and here.

KVermilion: If you still would like to re-encode the two 13+ GB files to divx, I wouldn't know of a way to transfer them quickly. It would be faster to send you DVDs. I could save the video as a VCD-sized MPEG-1 as a quick-fix while I send you the files. I could also try the AiW again, though I don't know if it will work now. How do you re-encode those videos? (MPEG), because every time I tried reencoding them to any AVI, they were out of sinc. (Getting worse as the video progressed, not constant.)

Tom Bottiglieri: Thank you for offering your webspace and bandwidth. If we can figure-out how to make this videofile, I'd be glad to use it.

Roland: The problem now in not just encoding, but capturing a huge file onto a hard-disk. Right now, I'm making room an my NTFS partition, and I'll try using that.

I know this is late to be doing this, but I've been so busy with Christmas, I haven't really had time to work on it untill this week.

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Here's the thread on my team's website where I should be releasing the files: (Please note the site is under construction, so please bear with me.)
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

I use Dr. DiVX... it works, more one touch instead of the horrendous multi-step-each-one-needs-you-to-be-there-and-takes-hours that GK is...

As for out of sync-ness... no clue....

I have a TV-Wonder card. So getting source files to transcode would not be a problem at all... especially since I have dish network.
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

Oh. I don't have the money to buy any software, but I'll keep that in mind. Mabe I'll DL the trial for encoding the video.

You know what, I burnt out my mom's power supply while I was trying to encode a test video. (Don't worry, I have another, and I won't runn it on the highest priority.)
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

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Oh. I don't have the money to buy any software, but I'll keep that in mind. Mabe I'll DL the trial for encoding the video.

You know what, I burnt out my mom's power supply while I was trying to encode a test video. (Don't worry, I have another, and I won't runn it on the highest priority.)
WOW!

Must have been one sorry POS (the PSU)

Well, I'll need to know tommarow if you are going to capture and encode it, if not, I can do it.
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

I know I'm going to capture the video onto MiniDV, and VHS. I will try to make a go/no-go tomorrow on wether I will be able encode it, based on my success with capturing and encoding a video 62:47 long.

I don't want to inconvience anybody, but if I can't get my test to work on Friday, I can't understand how I could get even half the kickoff encoded at 720x480 anytime that weekend before Sunday evening without a miricle.

My copy of the files on the NTFS partition is about 2/3 complete. I need to go to bed, and I will try everything over again tomorrow morning.

In response to bellow post: No Kidding.

I'm also planning to capture the webcast as well.
I love doing this, but it makes my head hurt.

Oh, and about the schedule:
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasat..._Breaking.html

January 8, Saturday
10 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. - FIRST Robotics Kick-OFF New Hampshire - AMES
2 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. - FIRST Robotics Kick-OFF New Hampshire - AMES (Replay/Recorded 1/8/05)

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Maybe people will realize now why it takes NASA a few days to get thiers posted.
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

I plan on recording the broadcast to DVD but I'm not sure of what use it will be after that. As for the webcasts, there are multiple places serving NASA TV over the web and all the streams look pretty good right now. They may get bogged down on kickoff but teams remember, if for whatever reason you canot get a broadcast, there is always the option of webcast. Just search Google for "NASA TV Webcast" and you should find lots of sources.
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Re: NASA TV Satellite Feed

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I've purchased a MiniDV camcorder with AV input. I'm going to use that, since my computer just can't handle recording with anything else at that quality.


See Here and here.

KVermilion: If you still would like to re-encode the two 13+ GB files to divx, I wouldn't know of a way to transfer them quickly. It would be faster to send you DVDs. I could save the video as a VCD-sized MPEG-1 as a quick-fix while I send you the files. I could also try the AiW again, though I don't know if it will work now. How do you re-encode those videos? (MPEG), because every time I tried reencoding them to any AVI, they were out of sinc. (Getting worse as the video progressed, not constant.)

Tom Bottiglieri: Thank you for offering your webspace and bandwidth. If we can figure-out how to make this videofile, I'd be glad to use it.

Roland: The problem now in not just encoding, but capturing a huge file onto a hard-disk. Right now, I'm making room an my NTFS partition, and I'll try using that.

I know this is late to be doing this, but I've been so busy with Christmas, I haven't really had time to work on it untill this week.

More Edits:

Here's the thread on my team's website where I should be releasing the files: (Please note the site is under construction, so please bear with me.)
http://www.hsro.us/FRC1467/2005/mess...wtopic.php?t=2

13+ GB??? How long of a file and at what rate? I recorded about 4.5 hours the other night to see how well it would work, having it cut every 700MB for storage onto Cd's. I only used about 700MB per 35 minutes. or about 4 gig or so. I too Will be recording off my satellite to VCR then when I get back from kickoff it will be converted to digital onto my website and my team's site (links below) I will have multiple sizes and qualities and if wanted I could burn to DVD within a few days for a small fee ( price of DVD ) then send to you.

With my testing I used mid quality and after recording for that long my laptop turned off for some reason but the video was all saved correctly and synchronized. So expect to see high quality video on my site probably by Sunday night.
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