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FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

Hello. This is an important announcement for all FIRST Robotics Competition teams. Please share this information with the rest of your team in a timely manner.

Greetings Teams:

As we strive to build and maintain a powerful visual identify for FIRST, we are pleased to introduce an evolution of the FIRST logo.

Full details are available on our website at http://www.usfirst.org/about/news/newlogo2004.htm including:
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  • Artwork (jpeg and eps formats)
  • Standards
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Here's the new logo...
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Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

Warning. Preliminary response. I have not read the link yet.

Oh, my. I think that is absolutely aweful

I will edit this post when I read the link

EDIT: I have read that link and I still stand behind what I have said. The old logo looked professional. It had class. This looks like something from a cartoon. I don't like it. Personally, I may make use of the entire 12 month transistion period, if you know what I mean.
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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

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Originally Posted by T. Hoffman
Hello. This is an important announcement for all FIRST Robotics Competition teams. Please share this information with the rest of your team in a timely manner.

Greetings Teams:

As we strive to build and maintain a powerful visual identify for FIRST, we are pleased to introduce an evolution of the FIRST logo.

Full details are available on our website at http://www.usfirst.org/about/news/newlogo2004.htm including:
  • Q&A
  • Artwork (jpeg and eps formats)
  • Standards
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Here's the new logo...
The S and T look .. off. Maybe its just an illusion..
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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo



Not to hurt anyone's feelings, but it's just plain uninviting, and bland.

I really can't think of a better way to put it.

I am usual not so critical, but I just don't like the logo, and I think it was a wrong move to change it just before a season. It should have been released during the championship.
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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

I have to say I don't really like this evolution at all. Not because it is different, but because it is ugly. No big deal, its just a logo.
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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

I have to agree, the logo is a rather poor substitute for the existing one. On a white background, the circle fades out of existence without an outline.
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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

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I have to agree, the logo is a rather poor substitute for the existing one. On a white background, the circle fades out of existence without an outline.
I hadn't even noticed that. I guess it just shows that with how often I see that shape, my brain kind of just fills in the missing lines.
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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

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The S and T look .. off. Maybe its just an illusion..
I think the kerning is a bit off. The S and T are too close together and it makes them look like they are seperate from FIR. Actually, from the blown up picture, I think the kerning needed to be tweaked on all the letters a bit. The I and R look too seperated as well.

I'm not entirely sure why the logo needed to change, but I think this is an attempt to "modernize" the FIRST logo. I think the original had a kind of classic look with the line art style. I also think the original had 15 years of advertising and recognition behind it, so a change to it should have been a bit smaller. Then again, I'm just an opinionated ex-student, so I don't know the logic that actually went into this decision.

Mostly, I think this will be tough on teams and RDs that have a goodly amount of material with the old logo that probably isn't going to get replaced in the next year. Plus, this design looks a little rougher on people that screen print T-shirts. The gray is just one more color and you'll have a heck of a time lining it up with the other colors.

I just realized something. This means no more classic gray FIRST shirts. I guess I'll have to hoard and cherish the limited supply I have at the moment.
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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

I FEAR CHANGE!!!!!

Just kidding.. But seriously, I hope no one spent a lot of time on this new one. It looks more aimed at a kid's competition. Like, Maybe FLL?

Also, as a former team advisor said about the Enron logo: It's feng shui is off. It is standing precariously on only one tip. The tip from the Square, and it looks like it will fall.... As did Enron's logo, and thus corporation.


CLASSICS NEVER DIE!!

I wonder if those are gonna be on sale now? w00t!

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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

OMG!

*breathing stopped*.......................................... ..*breathing starts again*

Ah.....
it is different...
it's a little retro looking...
Ah.... it has greater international appeal! Qui? Si? Ho? Da?
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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

maybe they are only doing this to make us realise how great the other logo was. They'll use this new one for a while, then go back to the old one that everyone knows and loves, and call it "retro"...i am going to choose to beleive that...
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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

Wow, I am not a fan of the new logo. In plain terms I think it sucks! I hope that first reads these and reconsiders. The old logo looks so much more professional, the new logo is just wrong.
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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

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maybe they are only doing this to make us realise how great the other logo was. They'll use this new one for a while, then go back to the old one that everyone knows and loves, and call it "retro"...i am going to choose to beleive that...
So the new logo is like New Coke?
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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

Last time they changed the logo (last year or the year before), the edit was a minor one, which some people favored and some opposed.

This time, I can't see any praise for the new logo. The old one was clean, elegant, and extremely effective. The message I got from it was that from the simplest building blocks of shapes, the triangle, circle, and square, anything that could be imagined could be built. The straight-line approach and the bold lines and colors on them indicated simplicity, not a new "suaveness". I will continue to use the old logo whenever and wherever I need to use a logo.
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Re: FIRST Email - Introducing Evolution of the FIRST Logo

I kind of like the logo. It's just more different and FIRST has become warped -- in a good way. =D

*grumble* Now I need to change my avatar... *grumble*
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