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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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When I hear "the center is out," the only thing I can think of is the The Second Coming by W.B. Yeats
Hah! I thought the same thing. I don't think it relates to the game, though. =-]

Here's my guess. 4 is not enough does mean more than 4 'bots on the field. Each team will be required to build 2 robots this year, one large 'bot controlled by the normal FRC controller and one minibot controlled by the EDUbot controller. 4 big bots will have to deliver the 4 minibots to a center platform where they will run autonomously for the rest of the match.

The small bots will have to corral baseballs into soccer-style goals on the platform while the big bots place donuts on v-shaped goals that can multiply the minibots' scores.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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Hah! I thought the same thing. I don't think it relates to the game, though. =-]

Here's my guess. 4 is not enough does mean more than 4 'bots on the field. Each team will be required to build 2 robots this year, one large 'bot controlled by the normal FRC controller and one minibot controlled by the EDUbot controller. 4 big bots will have to deliver the 4 minibots to a center platform where they will run autonomously for the rest of the match.

The small bots will have to corral baseballs into soccer-style goals on the platform while the big bots place donuts on v-shaped goals that can multiply the minibots' scores.
I feel like that game would be really boring to watch. lol
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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Hah! I thought the same thing. I don't think it relates to the game, though. =-]

Here's my guess. 4 is not enough does mean more than 4 'bots on the field. Each team will be required to build 2 robots this year, one large 'bot controlled by the normal FRC controller and one minibot controlled by the EDUbot controller. 4 big bots will have to deliver the 4 minibots to a center platform where they will run autonomously for the rest of the match.

The small bots will have to corral baseballs into soccer-style goals on the platform while the big bots place donuts on v-shaped goals that can multiply the minibots' scores.
As if there wasnt enough time to build one!
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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Hah! I thought the same thing. I don't think it relates to the game, though. =-]

Here's my guess. 4 is not enough does mean more than 4 'bots on the field. Each team will be required to build 2 robots this year, one large 'bot controlled by the normal FRC controller and one minibot controlled by the EDUbot controller. 4 big bots will have to deliver the 4 minibots to a center platform where they will run autonomously for the rest of the match.

The small bots will have to corral baseballs into soccer-style goals on the platform while the big bots place donuts on v-shaped goals that can multiply the minibots' scores.
You mean like this http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=35?

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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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Here's my guess. 4 is not enough does mean more than 4 'bots on the field. Each team will be required to build 2 robots this year, one large 'bot controlled by the normal FRC controller and one minibot controlled by the EDUbot controller. 4 big bots will have to deliver the 4 minibots to a center platform where they will run autonomously for the rest of the match.

The small bots will have to corral baseballs into soccer-style goals on the platform while the big bots place donuts on v-shaped goals that can multiply the minibots' scores.
gackht!!
one robot is enough! nooooooooo............
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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gackht!!
one robot is enough! nooooooooo............
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That would be too cool.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

The center is out could always refer to the center being out of bounds, as in the robot cant enter the center (ooh a rhyme!) without getting some sort of penalty. An object could be in the center that the robot would have to get with some sort of extend-able hook type mechanism.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

I dunno guys, I've alreaady been having nightmares about this :-) , I "THINK" that when they are saying that "4 is not enough" , they are talking about wheels. Maybe four wheels this year won't be enough..... I know that 99.99% of robots have/had four wheels, I've seen very few trax robots...
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

I could imagine it meaning 4 goals isn't enough. While games in the past prove that idea wrong, 1 goal would not have been enough in 2002 and possibly, likewise, 4 is not enough in this year's game.

The center out...I tried the dictionary - means to single out - not too helpful and probably the wrong direction. Seems likely that if they are referring to goals as speculated here, they are probably talking about the fact that FIRST games general revolve around an object in the center of the field (only exception i can think of is 2002, but that's not exactly an exception since they start in the center).
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

ah, in the "four is not enough" part, i inferred that it would be like playoffs all the way along, you have 3 teams participate in each alliance, but only 2 would be on the field at a time.

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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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After consulting with my fellow dectectives at Mystery Inc., I have a few leads as to what this clue may mean.

We are investigating this matter further as of now, but.. Fred, our fearless leader, seems to think that it is the work of none other than Red Herring and the clue is fake.

If any of you spot this person, be wary of the information they give you, and call me.

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Wow, this sure sounds interesting, i am not giving out any of the hundreds of ideas i have. I will dream about it tonight and see what else i come up with . After reading through all, yes i said all, the posts in this thread, i have to say there are some pretty good ideas out there. I can't wait until the kickoff.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

I still don't understand why there is all this discussion in this thread. Something that some team's mentor told them isn't very viable. This is just like everything that happens, every single year. Just like the time that kid claimed to have "accidentally" found the game layout image on FIRST's website.

Why is this so difficult to understand? IT'S NOT REAL.

FIRST makes the decision to tell students hints. They do it in the form of an email blast, like they did last year. The "stairway to heaven" hint, rememeber?

If someone who "knows people at FIRST" decided to tell your team a "hint" ahead of time, then shame on them. If you are just making stuff up, then shame on you. If the hint is real, then shame on you for posting it. Think about what this could do the person that "knows people at FIRST"

I still don't think it's real. This thread has been driving me crazy.
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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

"Four is not enough"

People - you have already forgotten: Five is something that we have previously discussed. And Dave said that it would be easy to have a 1-on-1-on-1-on-1-on-1 game.

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Re: THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

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I still don't understand why there is all this discussion in this thread. Something that some team's mentor told them isn't very viable. This is just like everything that happens, every single year. Just like the time that kid claimed to have "accidentally" found the game layout image on FIRST's website.

Why is this so difficult to understand? IT'S NOT REAL.

FIRST makes the decision to tell students hints. They do it in the form of an email blast, like they did last year. The "stairway to heaven" hint, rememeber?

If someone who "knows people at FIRST" decided to tell your team a "hint" ahead of time, then shame on them. If you are just making stuff up, then shame on you. If the hint is real, then shame on you for posting it. Think about what this could do the person that "knows people at FIRST"

I still don't think it's real. This thread has been driving me crazy.
While I agree that if people actually believed that this was an official FIRST 2005 hint, he shouldn't be posting it and the mentor shouldn't have told etc, I don't however believe it is such and doubt many people here take this thread as seriously as you might think. This is all just adding to the hype and excitement involved with waiting for the kickoff. Nothing involved in this will probably get anywhere close to the actual answer and no harm is done. Like dave lavery said, this is like shaking the box and trying to figure out what it is...this is far from official so feel free to sit back and enjoy the "calm before the storm" or join in the speculation.
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