THE 2005 HINT!!!!!!!!!

[MrToast]

Originally Posted by Salik Syed

maybe if you go into the center of the field it will turn on autonomous mode... i.e you can't cross over under driver control

I LOVE that idea... That means if things go wrong, we have more of an excuse to blame it on the programmers!

MrToast

[n0cturnalxb]

Originally Posted by Matt Leese

When I hear "the center is out," the only thing I can think of is the The Second Coming by W.B. Yeats

Matt

-gasp-

-digs out notes-

The world will turn to chaos?
The future is unpredictable and unreliable?

,,, Maybe this is a warning Don't hang your hopes up too high for whatever you predict, because the future (or the game itself) is unpredictable? That.. or just don't bother until the offical hint comes out (or till January 8).

[Swampdude]

Ya know, I actually believe Dave here. I don't think this is a real clue. Maybe this instructor was misunderstood, or just messing with his team. Either way it doesn't seem like a source. Unless this guy actually knows (saw) something and spilled some sacred beans, and Dave is getting flustered. In which case, if he we're giving real clues and Dave has not been. Then I could go along with the all the 5-6 team stuff and a funky field. But I'm siding with Dave

Me being Joe Schmo, I haven't heard anything from people close to kickoff coordinators and others that know stuff. So I think FIRST is doing a good job of guarding their secrets. Plus I really don't want to know, but honestly I can't help but feed the excitement of trying to figure it out, and wanting to get going with the season. This may be one of the most enduring factors of FIRST that makes it so addictive. This whole process has become my Christmas morning gift opening ceremony. Yep, I LOVE this stuff!

[trev2023]

OK...this is another way out there theory...

I was wondering why the word "out" was used instead of "gone" or something. Which got me thinking of word games. What if it means that the game's name has the letters o u t in the center of it???

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Dictionary.com definition of out... (#7)

7. In or into a state of unconsciousness

So Im going to say the center is used only for autonomous mode.

[George1902]

Originally Posted by Matt Leese

When I hear "the center is out," the only thing I can think of is the The Second Coming by W.B. Yeats

Hah! I thought the same thing. I don't think it relates to the game, though. =-]

Here's my guess. 4 is not enough does mean more than 4 'bots on the field. Each team will be required to build 2 robots this year, one large 'bot controlled by the normal FRC controller and one minibot controlled by the EDUbot controller. 4 big bots will have to deliver the 4 minibots to a center platform where they will run autonomously for the rest of the match.

The small bots will have to corral baseballs into soccer-style goals on the platform while the big bots place donuts on v-shaped goals that can multiply the minibots' scores.

[Tom Bottiglieri]

Originally Posted by George1083

Hah! I thought the same thing. I don't think it relates to the game, though. =-]

Here's my guess. 4 is not enough does mean more than 4 'bots on the field. Each team will be required to build 2 robots this year, one large 'bot controlled by the normal FRC controller and one minibot controlled by the EDUbot controller. 4 big bots will have to deliver the 4 minibots to a center platform where they will run autonomously for the rest of the match.

The small bots will have to corral baseballs into soccer-style goals on the platform while the big bots place donuts on v-shaped goals that can multiply the minibots' scores.

I feel like that game would be really boring to watch. lol

[Dested]

Hah! I thought the same thing. I don't think it relates to the game, though. =-]

Here's my guess. 4 is not enough does mean more than 4 'bots on the field. Each team will be required to build 2 robots this year, one large 'bot controlled by the normal FRC controller and one minibot controlled by the EDUbot controller. 4 big bots will have to deliver the 4 minibots to a center platform where they will run autonomously for the rest of the match.

The small bots will have to corral baseballs into soccer-style goals on the platform while the big bots place donuts on v-shaped goals that can multiply the minibots' scores.

As if there wasnt enough time to build one!

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by George1083

Hah! I thought the same thing. I don't think it relates to the game, though. =-]

Here's my guess. 4 is not enough does mean more than 4 'bots on the field. Each team will be required to build 2 robots this year, one large 'bot controlled by the normal FRC controller and one minibot controlled by the EDUbot controller. 4 big bots will have to deliver the 4 minibots to a center platform where they will run autonomously for the rest of the match.

The small bots will have to corral baseballs into soccer-style goals on the platform while the big bots place donuts on v-shaped goals that can multiply the minibots' scores.

You mean like this http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=35?

and this

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...8&postcount=26

Note:...Robovision was intended to be Robovation.

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by Ted Boucher

since i have not heard anything... i would not believe in anything but an official announcement from FIRST

hmm.... what is four?
4 robots on the field right now ... so more than 4 robots at a time?
4 fields at nationals that lead to the center (Einstein) .... more than 4 normal fields at nationals and no Einstein, the center.
4 people were on a team field crew in 2004 .....bigger field teams?
edit...
also the center of the old logo is filled up by the junction of the triangle and square of the new one.....
edit...

Hey Ted, you forgot one..

4 Ball tee's with IR beacons.

And this coincides with the comment about learning to use the IR sensors, for more sensors will be added in years to come.

By the way:

Four
Is
Not
Enough

Center
Is
Out

Not to mention, FIRST's most recent partnership with Robonexus leads to the knowledge that a Robonexus partner, International Data Group, has a publication called CIO, which also did a feature on FIRST itself mentioning the game in 2000 in which their were only 4 teams competing, and the ramp in the center of the field was "in" scoring position.


But.. That's all I'm gonna speculate for now, since this is not an "official" FIRST Media Blast hint yet.

I was already burned on guessing what the game was all about last year.
Don't want that to happen this year, by just guessing at non-official hints again.

[Aaron]

i've been mulling over this for a while, the most sensible reason for the first part of 4 is not enough that i can think of is that the teams will be five people each. With 2 human player. It seems resonable. now to figure out the center is out part...

[Joshua May]

Originally Posted by Aaron

i've been mulling over this for a while, the most sensible reason for the first part of 4 is not enough that i can think of is that the teams will be five people each. With 2 human player. It seems resonable.

I think someone at kickoff last year mentioned something about increasing the level of human player activity from 2003-2004, perhaps this is the next step of increasing the Human Player's interaction with the Game/Robots in FIRST.

[Raul]

Originally Posted by Koko Ed

Which is probably why it won't happen.
*wonders what is the most expensive fild FIRST ever made*

Ed, I would guess the 1998 hexagon field, with all the pipes all over the field, was the most expensive to set up, or at least the most complex to build.

[Stephen Kowski]

Originally Posted by Raul

Ed, I would guess the 1998 hexagon field, with all the pipes all over the field, was the most expensive to set up, or at least the most complex to build.

I dunno....i remember that grating from 2003 to be pretty darn expensive....along with that huge slab of HDPE

[sanddrag]

Originally Posted by Stephen Kowski

I dunno....i remember that grating from 2003 to be pretty darn expensive....along with that huge slab of HDPE

Along with the welded aluminum structure underneath.