Official 2005 Clue Thread

[Dested]

okay, follow me here.

The IR Beacon is in the middle of the field, you cant see it, thats why you need to "Look closly", and, maybe, there are 3 teams going at it at once...?

[Michael Leicht]

My mother thinks it has to do with the scoring and 3 ways and i agree.

It looks like that 3 is the lucky number this year. about time 3 is the lucky number.

[Corey Balint]

Could it be something with pyramids?

The Rock and Roll hall of fame is a pyramid shape if i can remember correctly and as previously posted the amethyst has a pyramid on it too. So maybe something in the middle of the field is a pyramid?

[Dested]

Well it has to be something invisible, cause it says "If you look closely", thats y i assumed that it was the beacon or something.

[JohnBoucher]

Leonardo Da Vinci wrote that amethyst was able to dissipate evil thoughts and quicken the intelligence.

[Michael Leicht]

George H. Burns -- Sept. 14, 1923
Boston first baseman George Burns turned his in the second inning against Cleveland. Burns caught Frank Brower's line drive, tagged Walt Lutzke off first base and ran to second and slid into the bag before Riggs Stephenson could return from third base.

is there another george burns? other then baseball?

[Corey Balint]

An Actor too

[angelina]

I haven't read each and every post on this thread, so maybe I missed it if someone else has already thought of some of this........................

There was a baseball player named Pi Schwert. He was a catcher for the Yankees. Short baseball career, but later he went into politics. Perhaps the "Pi" in the clue isn't just our friendly 3.14.

Now how about that "between Pi, You and Me".....................
If we consider Neun and Burns to be together at their usual 1st base position and Schwert at homeplate, what is between? a "runner"? a "baseline"?

Or if we consider first base as position 1 and Pi as position 3 (third base), we have the pitcher or pitching mound between.

I agree with all those folks claiming there are also several hidden 3's and 6's in the clue.

oh well. it was fun to think about anyway. see you on the field!

Angelina

[Yan Wang]

[joke] My friend Nick is going back to his IB school in Hong Kong. You know, I'm so eager to find out about the rules that I'll have him email them to me on the 8th in HK cause it'll be the 7th here! [/joke]

Seriously though, I like the pyramid idea very much after seeing the images Petey posted. If the above post is correct, then perhaps there is a hole or some scoring object in the top? However, if this is to be a solid pyramid, then I dislike the idea because last year's field setup was hard enough to drive around in.

[Adam McLeod]

Since we're in the business of over-analysis, I thought I'd share my immediate thoughts.

The clue kind of reminds me of a clue from a cryptic crossword, wherein oftentimes you have to find hidden meanings through anagrams. (Usually the anagrams are triggered by words such as 'crazy' or 'mixed', but there isn't anything of the sort in this particular clue, which leads me to believe that I'm barking up the wrong tree, but then again who isn't?)

So I've found a few anagrams for the phrase 'pi, you and me', and I've come up with some incredibly useless things, but mildly amusing nonetheless:

Yup, I'm anode
Yea, impound!
You'd pain me
Aim upon dye
Nude myopia

These were some that jumped out at me.

Like I said, in cryptic crosswords, there are usually triggering words, like 'between pi, you and me' could mean that there is a word in order within the letters of those words. (Like the country name 'hungary' in 'don't shun Gary, he just wants to play', which is from a book I had as a younger child).

It's a slightly different way of thinking, which is what first is all about, right? Anyway, I hope kickoff weekend is great for everyone.

[Petey]

Originally Posted by Yan Wang

[joke] My friend Nick is going back to his IB school in Hong Kong. You know, I'm so eager to find out about the rules that I'll have him email them to me on the 8th in HK cause it'll be the 7th here! [/joke]

Seriously though, I like the pyramid idea very much after seeing the images Petey posted. If the above post is correct, then perhaps there is a hole or some scoring object in the top? However, if this is to be a solid pyramid, then I dislike the idea because last year's field setup was hard enough to drive around in.

I bet they got enough people complaining about last year and about stack attack that they've come up with some way to avoid it.

Although...if you keep on the 3's...we could see 3, 6, and 9 foot pyramids, couldn't we?

I'm still interested in whether or not we'll see baseballs this year. They would be dangerous...but...

One thing we really haven't decided that much is the gameplay. I'm very interested in seeing how this clue fits into the gameplay, not just the physical design of the field.

--Petey

[Mike Ciance]

to look closely "between" George Burns, John Neun, and Pi Schwert, i looked at their middle names:

George Henry Burns
John Henry Neun
Pi Louis Schwert

did a search for "Henry Louis"
found a Henry Louis Aaron aka Hank Aaron (the baseball player)

Hank Aaron was born February 5th, making his birthstone Amethyst

one of his nicknames was "Hammer" - could the game have somethign to do with hammers or hammering?

[Ryan Meador]

Like most ppl at this point, I haven't read all the posts in this thread. But here's something that I thought of: Last year, a lot of ppl asked to use the CMU Cam on their robots to allow the robot to do image recognition during autonomous (very useful for something like tracking the big yellow balls). It has been mentioned that amythist is used in enhancing optics... leads me to believe the CMU cam will be allowed this year, maybe even part of the kit.

A sidenote: WPI always runs a pre-season warmup in the style of FIRST, and we design the game ourselves. Purely through dumb luck, many of our game design ideas show up in FIRST (great minds...). Something we were toying with was having the scoring zones change colors (i.e. the points in them switch teams) either randomly, timed, or based on the actions of the robots. Their is your purple

[Petey]

Interesting idea, Ryan. I love that scoring zone change color thing.

I get the feeling that all of the unassisted information leads to a bigger, more in-depth autonomous mode.

What I'm really interested in--and what I'd like to see--is how close all this speculation is going to come to what we actually see. I'd also like to see whoever wrote the quote come forth and see how many of these connections were intended and how many weren't. There is no way that the Hank Aaron thing was intended, but the simple fact that it works out is crazy/scary.

--Petey

[Collmandoman]

So I hear they don't even have a game deisgn... they just throw some words together for a clue.. and if the see an idea they like they adjust it...
we are pawns
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