Official 2005 Clue Thread

[Corey Balint]

Originally Posted by Mike Betts

Why is Amethyst capitalized? I wonder...

Because a Captial A looks like a Pyramid shape lol. I'm not gonna drop the pyramid idea yet.

[Jaine Perotti]

While I also can't imagine FIRST abandoning alliances altogether, it may be worth noting that John Neun and George Burns are notable in baseball for having performed unassisted triple plays.

Neun and Burns both made UNASSISTED triple plays. Purple is the combination of Red and Blue. Maybe there are no longer alliances and you get extra points for doing something during autonomous.

Wow... I am having so many thoughts running through my head right now... but here is my first thought.

Red and Blue combined is the color purple. Is FIRST telling us that this year the line between blue and red alliances will be blurred somehow?

For example... will teams be rotated between alliances in the middle of the match? Will robots A,B, and C start out as an alliance against robots D,E, and F... and then at a certain point in the match, teams A and D switch alliances?

I could certainly see FIRST making a game like this, because it doesn't get rid of alliances and it still requires cooperation.

This is only one idea out of many, so I'm sure I will be posting more....
This is fun!

--Jaine

EDIT: Why is "You, Me, and Pi" capitalized?

[Michael Leicht]

Originally Posted by phrontist

Look at this bloody album cover people! John Lennon, known for his rosy specs, and George Harrison have a drum between them. A circle! Pi! Muhahahaha!

Pi - The Drum
You - George
Me - John

Forms a triangle!!!!
In the center of which is something they are holding!

What are they holding?!

UPDATE: They're all musical instruments. What does that mean. The trumpet seems closest to the center. Whatever the case, I'm positive lavery was indicating this album cover. It's just so like him. First Led Zep, now the Fab Four. And hey, he mentioned the fab four in another clue! Let me find it.

i am with you about the music and the game it is just who is the artist that is the big clue.

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by phrontist

Look at this bloody album cover people! John Lennon, known for his rosy specs, and George Harrison have a drum between them. A circle! Pi! Muhahahaha!

Pi - The Drum
You - George
Me - John

Muwhahahahaha! Did someone say Drum again?

[phrontist]

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

Muwhahahahaha! Did someone say Drum again?

What? Did someone mention a drum before? Explain this comment!

[JohnBoucher]

Why is Pi capitalized?

[phrontist]

Originally Posted by JohnBoucher

Why is Pi capitalized?

Proper Nouns are capitalized

[JohnBoucher]

Remember the Patent application on the game this year.... Alliances will still be in.

[phrontist]

Here is a great refrence to all the people who appear on that album cover. George Burns isn't on it, and neither is John Neun :-)

[Yan Wang]

I agree with the hexagonal field idea. I think that the Pi references the center of the field being a round hole. As a driver, I think that'd be a great idea. It was very difficult to see around last year's montrous center setup.

Perhaps "between Pi, You and Me" means that the hole in the center is between the two alliance members (You and Me). Thus, alliances will still exist, but they will have to play on opposite ends of the field. I can't imagine not having some type of alliance system in FIRST.

[Kevin Sevcik]

So much rampant speculation... I'll go along with the purple = red+blue thing, and the not-quite unassisted thing. My hunches are currently that it's some sort of non-alliance game, but you can also cooperate with another team in some fashion to get extra points for both teams.

Edit: Just remembered. Pi radians = 180 deg. a straight line. something's in the middle of the field on a straight line between the two teams?

[Jaine Perotti]

Why is Pi capitalized?

PI is the 16 th letter of the Greek Alphabet. The following is from a math site:
pi PI (PIE) The lower-case Pi is universally used to represent that number which is the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. The upper-case Pi is used as the “product” symbol.

…so uppercase Pi is used as the “product” symbol eh?

Does this mean that there will be a multiplier in this game? Like the 2x ball from last year and the stacks from 2003?

-- Jaine

[Brandon Holley]

I personally like the idea of the alliances switching in the middle of the match. It definetly seems like something FIRST would do. 3 on 3...and after a minute or such, all the lights change RANDOMLY, and the lights on the robots change to show who is on which alliance...So you cant just setup where u want to be when u change. Thats just what I'm thinking, I <3 this chaos.

[phrontist]

Originally Posted by Yan Wang

I agree with the hexagonal field idea. I think that the Pi references the center of the field being a round hole. As a driver, I think that'd be a great idea. It was very difficult to see around last year's montrous center setup.

Perhaps "between Pi, You and Me" means that the hole in the center is between the two alliance members (You and Me). Thus, alliances will still exist, but they will have to play on opposite ends of the field.

Very, Very, Possible

[Max Lobovsky]

Originally Posted by Arefin Bari

I am going with what Max said, 3 Vs. 3 and a hexagonal field. :ulls hair out::

Actually, I meant 3 teams total. As I said in some other rumor thread, 6 teams per match is unlikely because of the increased logistics headache of moving that many teams on and off the field.

I definitley think there is something to this working together thing with the blue and red blurred thing, and I am not to happy about it. I know they want to deal with the battle bots issue, but I can't imagine how they can remove the head-to-head competition and keep it fun.