Official 2005 Clue Thread

[Joe Matt]

I'll put my money on a field design where you must have the other team help you get scoring objects across a chasm. Hence the 'middle is out' comment, and the purple (red + blue, guess nobody has mentioned redvsblue.com yet) clue.

Originally Posted by Yan Wang

I agree with the hexagonal field idea. I think that the Pi references the center of the field being a round hole. As a driver, I think that'd be a great idea. It was very difficult to see around last year's montrous center setup.

Perhaps "between Pi, You and Me" means that the hole in the center is between the two alliance members (You and Me). Thus, alliances will still exist, but they will have to play on opposite ends of the field. I can't imagine not having some type of alliance system in FIRST.

Wouldn't FIRST still want some interactive space between the two alliance members? Maybe the purple (red+blue) signifies this area/hole between the two starting positions that is what allows both to score/cooperate.

[Charley]

Well, last year, between one regional and the championships, our team had two partners not show up.

I mean, the whole team thing can certainly backfire...

But I wonder how strategy could work with switching alliances? That seems to be a central part of the game...

[Brandon Holley]

I am reminded of the "4 is not enough, and the center is out" clue, even tho it was a fake, look at it. 4 is not enough, 4 corners are not enough, and the center is out could in my eyes be 2 things....One the center is inside out meaning its on the outside and the outside is in (aka driver stations?) and it could also be the "amethyst" scoring area....

I am also sticking to the switching of alliances in the middle of the match as part of the whole "amethyst" scheme..

[Jaine Perotti]

Originally Posted by Max Lobovsky

I definitley think there is something to this working together thing with the blue and red blurred thing, and I am not to happy about it. I know they want to deal with the battle bots issue, but I can't imagine how they can remove the head-to-head competition and keep it fun.

well... I think it is still head to head... if only 1 team is switching out at a time, then you still have to work hard together with your slighty-different-alliance to defeat the other.

Also, the alliance switching may not occur during the match itself... perhaps the alliances change between rounds. so, during round 1 its would be ABC vs. DEF, the second round would be DBC vs. AEF ... etc.

Get rid of the unwarranted assumptions about the alliance switching idea... there could be an infinite amount of meanings for it. It could be an alliance configuration we have never even dreamt of yet.

[Elgin Clock]

Originally Posted by phrontist

What? Did someone mention a drum before? Explain this comment!

Just for you phrontist LINK

[Arefin Bari]

Originally Posted by BurningQuestion

well... I think it is still head to head... if only 1 team is switching out at a time, then you still have to work hard together with your slighty-different-alliance to defeat the other.

Also, the alliance switching may not occur during the match itself... perhaps the alliances change between rounds. so, during round 1 its would be ABC vs. DEF, the second round would be DBC vs. AEF ... etc.

if this is the scenario...

"during round 1 its would be ABC vs. DEF, the second round would be DBC vs. AEF"

How would they decide whose the winner (regionals, national) and whose the finalist?

[Greg Needel]

i think we are missing something very obvious....if both of the people are baseball players.....maybe baseballs are the scoring objects this year.

[phrontist]

Hey, don't forget the drivers could be in the center.

Reprhrasing the clue:

"Wearing purple (and/or six sided prism glasses) look closely between Pi (circle 3.14), and two tripple play makers.

Sorry, don't expect to see a radical change in the number of teams competing. There are still four channels on the radios, so I don't think six at a time is possible, and three at a time is not efficient. I also don't see a major redesign in the field of play. It is darn expensive to throw out what you have already.

Scoring a tripple play or having do arrange something in a way that three out of four things are in a circle is perhaps a possibility. Another gruesome though - perhaps a version of the "Towers of Hanoi" puzzle where alliances have to arrange blue and red (makes purple = amythest) circles on three of four (triple play) sticks.

Other inferences - this is obvoiusly a clue from a baseball trivia crazy fan. As such if this person also designed the game, we can bet the statistics and math will proably play a big part in figuring out the score.

[Dested]

Originally Posted by Greg Needel

i think we are missing something very obvious....if both of the people are baseball players.....maybe baseballs are the scoring objects this year.

That'd be sick!

[Kevin Casper]

Originally Posted by Greg Needel

i think we are missing something very obvious....if both of the people are baseball players.....maybe baseballs are the scoring objects this year.

Could also be bases. They are both known for triple plays. Perhaps there are 3 bases.

Pi you and me I think suggests a cirular something inbetween the bases.

[Charley]

Originally Posted by phrontist

Hey, don't forget the drivers could be in the center.

That'd be pretty hard to see. Especially with more bots on the field.

[Arefin Bari]

Originally Posted by Dr.Bot

Reprhrasing the clue:

"Wearing purple (and/or six sided prism glasses) look closely between Pi (circle 3.14), and two tripple play makers.

Sorry, don't expect to see a radical change in the number of teams competing. There are still four channels on the radios, so I don't think six at a time is possible, and three at a time is not efficient. I also don't see a major redesign in the field of play. It is darn expensive to throw out what you have already.

Scoring a tripple play or having do arrange something in a way that three out of four things are in a circle is perhaps a possibility. Another gruesome though - perhaps a version of the "Towers of Hanoi" puzzle where alliances have to arrange blue and red (makes purple = amythest) circles on three of four (triple play) sticks.

Other inferences - this is obvoiusly a clue from a baseball trivia crazy fan. As such if this person also designed the game, we can bet the statistics and math will proably play a big part in figuring out the score.

alright, i can agree with this. so not 3 vs. 3 (because of the channels). So is it more than 4 human players?

[phrontist]

Originally Posted by Charley

That'd be pretty hard to see. Especially with more bots on the field.

I don't think there will be more bots. Thats a stupid change to make. It shall be four.