Unnofficial? (FIRST Robotics Singapore)

[phrontist]

Okay, Japan is cool, but I'd put my money on a German FIRST team with BMW engineers as mentors. C'mon BMW versus GM...

[Jeff Rodriguez]

I wonder if any of those teams watch our game and get to work early.
Also, did you notice the little podium-like things on the field. It's real close to the 2003 game, but not exactly the same.

[Jeff K.]

Originally Posted by Wetzel

Sony would beat Honda and Toyota.


Wetzel

It'd be cool if they made like, a bigger AIBO for the competition, and it do some extra stuff like barking, etc when it won. But hey Wetzel, how long have they been working on that robot project? I don't really remember hearing about a robot other than AIBO from Sony but I heard about Honda making one and maybe Toyota, but I'm not sure. Their QRIO robot looks really cool, sort of like a mini Honda robot, but some of the things that it does in the video clips look unrealistic, conducting a symphony??? I have to see it to believe it. But overall it looks cool, nice casing too.

[Denman]

Originally Posted by DCA Fan

This is really interesting, but my question is, why aren't they part of the big FIRST? I mean, we (FIRST) have extended to Canada, Mexico, Brazil, and Israel of all places, you'd think that we would be quite capable of extending to Singapore, Japan, China, etc.

and england
and france
and australia
and germany

i dont think any harm was meant by saying "israel of all places",

[Ryan Dognaux]

That's really awesome, thanks for bringing this up because I'd never even heard of it before. I do wonder why they're not listed on the main FIRST map or really anywhere on the sites because they do use "FIRST" in the name of their program. Regardless, that's some pretty cool miniature stuff

[gsensel]

Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux

That's really awesome, thanks for bringing this up because I'd never even heard of it before. I do wonder why they're not listed on the main FIRST map or really anywhere on the sites because they do use "FIRST" in the name of their program. Regardless, that's some pretty cool miniature stuff

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...2&postcount=10

I missed this last night but another person I told about this pointed it out

[DCA Fan]

Originally Posted by Gal Longin

I would like to know what exactly did you mean by saying: "Israel of all places".
I'd have you know that in spite of what you may think of Israel, it has an highly developed hi-tech industry. One of the most advanced industries in the world for hi-tech products and technologies.
And many international robotics competitions like this one: http://www.trincoll.edu/events/robot/ are usually won by Israeli teams.

I didn't mean it like that, sorry. I meant to say how far FIRST has reached, starting from the US extending all the way to Israel, you would think that we could extend the other direction into Asia. Sorry for the confusion.

[Ken Leung]

Originally Posted by Bill Gold

If you have questions about this I would suggest you email Ken Krieger here in Palo Alto, CA. I'll give you his contact info if you PM me. He has been involved in this.

Before this discussion gets any bigger and affect any of the involving organizations' images, I would like to second what Bill said and clarify that "FIRST Robotics Singapore" is not a part of our FIRST, but their game was directly inspired by the 2003 Stack Attack Tournament.

They were consulted by Ken Krieger, the president of WRRF (Western Region Robotics Forum), when they were looking for help in creating their first year competition. As a result, the FIRST Robotics Singapore was born, and Ken K. along with some west coast FIRST students went over to Singapore during 2004 to help them run their competition. In return, the Singapore folks came over to visit the Silicon Valley 2004 Regional and watched our FIRST Frenzy tournament.

This is a seperate group effort in promoting science and technology in Singapore.

So before you speculate how this group is or isn't related to FIRST, you should ask Ken Krieger about it and get the facts straight before you decide anything about this organization/effort.

[Max Lobovsky]

Originally Posted by Wetzel

Sony would beat Honda and Toyota.


Wetzel

The problem is, with Sony, your $3500 budget gets you a barebones robot. A drivetrain and perhaps a simple plow. It will probably use all sorts of proprietary controls and devices. It may be reliable, but are you sure its worth the extra cost? Now with say Panasonic, you know you really get features for every last penny you put in...