Official 2005 Clue Thread

[Swampdude]

Originally Posted by Dave Campbell

Elgin,
Are we in the presence of Dean? Is LordDumpling really who he registered as? Team 1038 will just use the rubber from the walls of our rooms they keep us locked in. For the giant spoons, we'll just use the ones we eat all of our PI filling with...can't wait to see the real game Saturday

Good catch, either that's Dean's first post on Delphi, or another CD pranxster. If it is, I always wondered if he missed out on all the traffic buzzing based on his creation.

Hi Dean ole buddy!

p.s. thanks for signing my shirt

[BillP]

There is a lot of speculation going though this thread and some of it is probably on the mark, and some of it not. I haven't read all 400+ posts yet, but there is somthing that I noticed that I haven't seen in a post yet.

Pi is the Greek letter "P" (duh!) and the 16th letter of the Greek alphabet. Looking at the clue, maybe "you" is the Greek letter Upsilon and "me" is the Greek letter Mu. Interestingly, Mu is the 12th letter of the alphabet and Upsilon is the 20th letter meaning that Pi is located exactly halfway between them. Looking inbetween the letter Upsilon, Mu and Pi are the following letters:

Mu M
Nu N
Xi X
Omicron O
Pi P
Rho R
Sigma S
Tau T
Upsilon U

This gives us the letters N, X, O, R, S and T.

Don't know if this means anything, just thought it was interesting.

[Pat Roche]

Originally Posted by nicole839

no suer if this will hav been posted yet or not. i haven't finished reading all of the posts in this thread yet. but when you read it like that, it reaffirms the point that the product or scores will have something in common with you and i. so then red and blue with have to work together to accomplish at least a piece of their scores, maybe some sort of multiplier.

hope this makes sense.

Maybe the scoring system is based off the difference of you and your opponent and multiplied by pi and both alliances recieve that score.

Or maybe its the difference of the two alliances scores and the value of pi
-Pat

[Revolverx7]

I still think that its going to be 2 teams of three. If it were 3 teams of 2 this leads to teams easily being able to gang up on a single team. Although it could happen I don't like the idea of 3 teams.

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by Revolverx7

I still think that its going to be 2 teams of three.

Teams of three are practically guaranteed. The 2005 Championship Eligibility says there will be three Regional Champions at each regional event.

[Animator]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

Teams of three are practically guaranteed. The 2005 Championship Eligibility says there will be three Regional Champions at each regional event.

The 2005 Eligibility is referring to the 2004 tournament which had 3 winning teams. Two primary competitors and an alternate.

[Rich Wong]

The dark clouds (in my brain) parted and a beam of light cascaded down and then a voice speaks....

Originally Posted by LordDumpling

I heard something about Flying Monkeys and a Giant Pit, but I suppose that doesn't go along with the clues, unless the pit is round and filled with purple jello, which would make that correct.

I base my knowledge on with the loads of jello FIRST has bought, with my credit card.

Why do I let those FIRST people use my credit card? Just cause I have an unlimited credit limit, and I really can afford it, doesn't make it right. I should write a check instead, or better yet cash. Cash is always better, remember that when fund raising.

Good luck teams with this years competition. I recommend you invest in a giant spoon and rubber suits.

The darken returns in my mind and the state of confusion engulfs me again.

Lord Dumpling?
I am really, really, really scared.

BTW- JELLO is the dessert you eat first!

[Steve Howland]

Originally Posted by Animator

The 2005 Eligibility is referring to the 2004 tournament which had 3 winning teams. Two primary competitors and an alternate.

Actually the part of that page that says 3 regional winners per event has been altered - earlier it stated "to be determined based on the 2005 game." Now that this has been changed, it can probably be safely assumed that the 4 teams do not work together, because if they did 4 teams would win. Instead 3 teams win, which could be similar to last year with two competing and the alternate, or all 3 teams of the alliance out in every round. This would make for some interesting matches, especially if a robot broke during a match and a team was only able to go out with 2 or even 1 bot.

[Joe Matt]

Hey Brandon, can you track the IP of LordDumpling?

[Tim Delles]

I really can't see FIRST making an alliance in the elimination round play with all robots with no contingincy(spelling??) for a broken robot.

[TLonghorns0593]

There are always three winers and if people are going on the assumption that there are 3 things on the field than it would more than likely be 3 teams of 2. That would make more sense than having 2 teams of 3 because in elims if a bot broke there would be no replacement team. And it says that there is only 3 winning teams per regional, which also adds to the 3 teams of 2 instead of the other previously stated.

[Jacqui]

Is there any chance that the field could be shaped like a baseball diamond, and in the center be a circle in which the robots start?

[Peter Matteson]

Originally Posted by Tim Delles

I really can't see FIRST making an alliance in the elimination round play with all robots with no contingincy(spelling??) for a broken robot.

Makes sense if they make a non-contact game that limits the possibility of damage during the competition.

[Tim Delles]

You must also realize that 2001 the game was almost no contact or roughing between the robots and it still had an extra robot so i think that you still need the extra robot, that is why i'm sticking by my thought of an extra robot.

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by Dzdconfusd

Makes sense if they make a non-contact game that limits the possibility of damage during the competition.

I can envision this...something like 2v0+2v0, in effect like how the FLL fields are set up (one robot on one side, another on the flip side, and little or no interaction between them). Especially since FLL alumni are now well into the FRC phase of their lives. Redabot and Redderabot are on one side of the field, separated from Bluabot and Bluerabot by a fence or something that keeps robots from crossing over (or under). The challenge would then be adding some kind of offense or defense, to keep the game interesting--something like a ball- (or donut- or inflatable clown-) sized chute to the other side.