Concerns regarding the green paneling/green shirts

[BandChick]

What about teams like MOE? They have always had Green robots and Green shirts, I doubt they would want to change that. The same goes for 233, are they not going to be allowed a pink robot this year?

Rule 26 says you aren't allowed to intefere INTENTIONALLY with the sensors, but that's just team spirit, not intentional distraction. In my book it doesn't seem fair to prevent these teams from their usual displays.

[billbuckner]

Originally Posted by BandChick

What about teams like MOE? They have always had Green robots and Green shirts, I doubt they would want to change that. The same goes for 233, are they not going to be allowed a pink robot this year?

Rule 26 says you aren't allowed to intefere INTENTIONALLY with the sensors, but that's just team spirit, not intentional distraction. In my book it doesn't seem fair to prevent these teams from their usual displays.

Yeah, but it seems even less fair to have a robot be unable to function due to an unrelated non-element of the game.

[ebmonon36]

Originally Posted by billbuckner

Yeah, but it seems even less fair to have a robot be unable to function due to an unrelated non-element of the game.

I dont know the specs on the sensors, but I think MOE's green is light enough that it would know the difference between MOE green and vision-tetra green.
Eric

[Petey]

Well, then what is to stop my team from suddenly adopting this tradition?

If you paint your robot a color that you know will interfere with it, than isn't it intentional damage, since it is knowing damage?

I'd be surprised if FIRST doesn't explicate this.

--Petey

[Jay H 237]

According to the rule, the way it is currently written, is that you can't keep changing it's color to give you an advantage, but it doesn't say you can't have a green robot that you built as a green robot during the six weeks.

[Petey]

Originally Posted by Jay H 237

According to the rule, the way it is currently written, is that you can't keep changing it's color to give you an advantage, but it doesn't say you can't have a green robot that you built as a green robot during the six weeks.

Mmmm...chameleon robot.

I'm definitely asking FIRST this.

--Petey

[xxerin]

The cameras have a limeted field of view so it its unlikely that green shirts would distract them

[Petey]

Keep in mind that this also applies for red, blue, and yellow robots, because the tetras themselves are red and blue and the loading docks are yellow.

--Petey

[tiffany34990]

yeah i was thinking about this a lot-- for teams like swampthing and moe

but it does have to be directly in view-- hopefully it shouldn't mess things up that much

it seems like an interesting thing to do if you go against someone with that ability but as others stated it could hurt your partner

keep up the thinking ppl....

[Adare180]

Originally Posted by tiffany34990

yeah i was thinking about this a lot-- for teams like swampthing and moe

but it does have to be directly in view-- hopefully it shouldn't mess things up that much

it seems like an interesting thing to do if you go against someone with that ability but as others stated it could hurt your partner

keep up the thinking ppl....

We were discussing this earlier, and I would have thought the people at FIRST would have thought this through. It seemed that in the webcast, Dave Lavery's shirt had to be pretty close to the robot. This season should be pretty intersting.

[FIRST JerseyKid]

I just hope that in practice the robots dont start attacking fans. I think FIRST is plotting against moe just like when they said no more sticks and load objects.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by FIRST JerseyKid

I just hope that in practice the robots dont start attacking fans. I think FIRST is plotting against moe just like when they said no more sticks and load objects.

Now remember that I wasnt the first one to say this but....... j/k The sensors wont be able to reach out of the feild to attack fans, also the sensors should be pointed down so they can pick up the vision tetras and yellow markers under the goals.

[Anchi]

personally, i wish you would all grow up and stop this nonsensical babbling about being a pain to all the other teams and focus on strats which show a slight level of non selfish playing, and that are legal. as to people "losing" their team colors, i see no reason you cant stick with your aluminum channel and some good ol' Mother's. you would make your pit green and stuff like that. you could even interject a little humor into it and paint something on your robot like: "THIS CHASSIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GREEN...", or "THIS IS GREEN IN REALITY"(painted blue).

on a lighter note, our sensor was not able to pick up a person in a green shirt from 30 feet and the field is what 54ish?

[NoodleKnight]

the CMU cam can't hardware adjust it's sensitivity. Physically, the CMU cam is made of two pieces, the camera and the gpu. You can adjust the camera's focus; I'm not sure what the supplied gpu can do, hardware wise. I use the CMU cam (older one) on my own robots, it's fairly sensitive to color differences until it starts loosing focus.

[TheOtherTaylor]

Wouldn't the opponents wearing green shirts be too far away? The bot in the demonstration didn't pick up the shirt till he was really near the bot. It might not have been on before, but do those things have long range?