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Unread 08-01-2005, 16:34
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Re: Why are they showing us how to build a chasis?

For a rookie teams things like putting together a working drive train and building a good chassie can be a difficult thing to do.
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Re: Why are they showing us how to build a chasis?

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For a rookie teams things like putting together a working drive train and building a good chassie can be a difficult thing to do.
yea the drive train and chassis are not really good enough for a more experienced team and even if you did use them they would still need to be adapted for your superstructure. So they are trying to make jumping on the train easier.
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Re: Why are they showing us how to build a chasis?

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yea the drive train and chassis are not really good enough for a more experienced team and even if you did use them they would still need to be adapted for your superstructure. So they are trying to make jumping on the train easier.
no, you can never really say its not good enough. maybe not "as the experienced teams might want it to be".
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Re: Why are they showing us how to build a chasis?

Here's my view on it...

Last year, as a rookie, I would not have known anything about building a drive base or a gearbox at all. This is, what I think, a GREAT way to "teach" the rookies on how to build a drive base. This could be something the rookies, or veterans alike, could use to "experiment with". To find out what doesn't work, so they can make adjustments to the kit bot or build a new one using things they learned from the kit bot. I am giving FIRST 2 big thumbs up for this!

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Re: Why are they showing us how to build a chasis?

When i watched the video, the chassis they gave us looked really flimsy, but when we got the kit and i found out that is is 1/8 inch aluminum, i was more excited about using it. Personally, i would not use it, but my team is inclined to do so because of how easy it is going to make it for us. Last year we made our own chassis and it worked out good, but the kit this year looks more substantial.
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Re: Why are they showing us how to build a chasis?

There are several good things about giving us the chassis
1) Head start for rookies or teams that have lost some engineering support
2) If they are building their own chassis, this could be assembled and the sensor could be played around with for programming. Everyone wants to see how the new software works
3) You wont have robots on the field with an amazing arm structure but their wheels falling off during autonomous.
So make good use of it
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Re: Why are they showing us how to build a chasis?

I remember my first year participating and without the returning members on my team, it would've taken most of the build time for the new people on the team to just get a working chassis and drive system, so this is definitely a good thing. [ot] can't ever and can never are the same [/ot]
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Re: Why are they showing us how to build a chasis?

Exactly as Bharat said, for some veteran teams this pre-assembled chassis could serve as a prototype bed for mounting the new sensors and running it witth the 2005 RC for teams without the benefit of an older robot. At the same time it also provides a solid test bed for the first days or week of build season allowing many different configurations of wheels and the like to be tried. Also it serves to teach new members the fundamentals of what a solid base should look like (in relative terms). Although its small, for some teams having accomplished as much in the first few days is a big step forward.
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