One thing to note on the hanging tetras...

[rangersteve]

I have looked everywhere and can't find out how many points you recieve for knocking off a hanging tetra or for capping with a vision tetra. Does anyone know???

[Billfred]

When all else fails, check the manual.

If you put a vision tetra on a goal, it counts as a normal tetra--three points. (And then there's the whole bonus tetra thing--check the manual for that.)

If you knock off a hanging tetra, you get nothing for that--but dropping the tetra into the area under the goal is one point.

[copertop]

The Hanging tetras are worth one point if they just fall and land inside the bottom of the support struts. If you cap with tetra it is worth 3 points and can be used in a tic tac toe if it is the top most tetra. I think that everyone should go for knowcking down the tatras seeing as all you have to do is smack and walk away!

-J of D

[AmyPrib]

Just remember that tetras inside (on the floor) goals only count for 1pt if they're there at the end of the match.

[Greg Marra]

Yea, the only thing the hanging tetras are good for is to get an extra tetra during autonomous, because after autonomous they go away.

It's not clear in the diagram (or it wasn't for me anyway), but capping the vision tetra puts bonus tetras on your OPPONENTS goals, not on the ones close to you. This makes them better.

[Ferrer]

Originally Posted by Greg Marra

Yea, the only thing the hanging tetras are good for is to get an extra tetra during autonomous, because after autonomous they go away.

It's not clear in the diagram (or it wasn't for me anyway), but capping the vision tetra puts bonus tetras on your OPPONENTS goals, not on the ones close to you. This makes them better.

I'm pretty sure the bonus is for your OWN corner goals, because I would not see any strategical advantage in letting your opponent start off with anywhere from 6-9 points over you.

And i'm sorry if i get off topic slightly, but, - if you put BOTH vision tetras on any of the center goals during autonomous, would you get TWO extra tetras on the corners? or still only one?

[Mark Pettit]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

And i'm sorry if i get off topic slightly, but, - if you put BOTH vision tetras on any of the center goals during autonomous, would you get TWO extra tetras on the corners? or still only one?

It looks like if there are two of your vision tetras on the center goal, you get four bonus tetras placed, 2 on each of your corners.

[Jon K.]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

I'm pretty sure the bonus is for your OWN corner goals, because I would not see any strategical advantage in letting your opponent start off with anywhere from 6-9 points over you.

This will need to be adressed in a Q&A because the illustration shows them going to the opposite alliance, but they would be of your color, just on their goals, and this would give you an advantage.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Jon K.

This will need to be adressed in a Q&A because the illustration shows them going to the opposite alliance, but they would be of your color, just on their goals, and this would give you an advantage.

That's correct. The figure on Page 8 of section 4 (the game) contradicts Rule <G10> right above it.

My guess is that they transposed red and blue in the description of the figure. Edit: See here for the unofficial answer. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...1&postcount=10

[Pin Man]

Is it possible for magnets to get weaker as the competition goes on? That was one question that arised today in the design meeting...

[BandChick]

Probably, but it isn't likely. I'm sure they've been tested and worked on a lot throughout the past year. Usually it takes thousands of uses before magnets become substantially less powerful.

[elknise]

Originally Posted by Pin Man

Is it possible for magnets to get weaker as the competition goes on? That was one question that arised today in the design meeting...

They could get weeker if the competition lasted for thosands of years. Also, i beleive that only 4 goals and 4 tetras (2 red and 2 blue) are modified. Also, i remember during a question period at our kickoff location, i remember someone saying that it was a 20 pound magnet

[HPA_Robotics_13]

If you go to the McMaster-Carr online catalog and find the product that is listed in the FRC Game Team Field Elements Materials list the description of the magnet says that it is a 38 pound magnet. Product # 5685K32