Most Important Game Aspect of '05

[Alaina]

Originally Posted by AmyPrib

I don't think I understand that comment. You don't get a "row" unless it's stacked on top.. You can't get a row using a tetra just sitting underneath a goal.
Maybe I just mis-read your comment....

If you watch the people-playing-robots part of Kickoff you'll notice that after auton red has a row by having two capped and one under. They got the two capped by getting the center capped by a vision tetra. Having a tetra under a goal will count for a row, but if an opposing color is placed on top, it doesn't count. The highest tetra has possesion of the goal for scoring a row.

[Collmandoman]

Untrue, you have 'owned' a goal..if you have onw below until someone else caps

[kevin.fort]

Originally Posted by Collmandoman

Untrue, you have 'owned' a goal..if you have onw below until someone else caps

are you sure i dont remember that anywhere in thr rules.
anyway whats the likelihood that noone will put one on top

if you can plz post the rule to clarify

[tiffany34990]

teamwork is even more important this year i agree along w/ making the rows

i think also you have to some how defend your home area so that prevents a few rows forming

but yes if you have u'r tetra underneath you own it till someone caps it--that's why the hanging ones in auto mode can be important (sry dunno what rule that is)

[IMDWalrus]

Originally Posted by n0cturnalxb

Why do we keep saying tic-tac-toe? It reminds me of bingo, but with 3 per row

How is that any different?

I think that the most important thing here is going to be having a team of three robots that work well together, just as it has been in the past few games. Teamwork is what you'll need to win, right?

[leo_singer]

Originally Posted by n0cturnalxb

If you can get your robot to hold the tetras relatively stable-y AND stack while collecting (go in and out of the loading zone, collecting more than one tetra and forming a stack before you put it onto the goals) ... you've got a pretty good advantage there.

Then again, they're pretty heavy to keep holding.

And I have no idea how such an arm mechanism would work.

I've got an idea, but as it is it's too complicated to build. Imagine a telescoping arm consisting of several conveyor belts, studded with pins from which tetras can hang. As a conveyor belt reaches the end of one length of the arm, the tetra is handed off to the next length. You load tetras from some sort of hopper inside your robot and carry them up the arm to place them.

Think of a string of detachable aerial ski lifts.

[looneylin]

I personally think it has a lot to do with tic-tac-toe in that you need to make a row while undermining your opponent's row. Of course it's 3vs3 which doesnt exactly fit the description... lets call this ultimate tic-tac-toe lol

[leo_singer]

Originally Posted by looneylin

I personally think it has a lot to do with tic-tac-toe in that you need to make a row while undermining your opponent's row.

If your alliance "owns" either diagonal, then it is impossible for the opposing alliance to "own" any tic-tac-toe bonus at all.

[robolemur1236]

this really reminds me of a 3d tic-tac-toe game a friend of mine made. you had multiple levels to put Xs and 0s on. sounds normal so far, right? but if you place a piece next to one of the opponents, the opponent's piece disappears. There was an old game called Hexagon which he got the idea from.

[AmyPrib]

Originally Posted by Alaina

If you watch the people-playing-robots part of Kickoff you'll notice that after auton red has a row by having two capped and one under. They got the two capped by getting the center capped by a vision tetra. Having a tetra under a goal will count for a row, but if an opposing color is placed on top, it doesn't count. The highest tetra has possesion of the goal for scoring a row.

Yep - early on I missed that rule... if you have the majority or have the highest tetra UNDER a goal, then you own it (if there are none stacked on top).
However, from Q/A, if you and opponent have the same number of tetras, and they're at the same height inside the goal, then nobody owns the goal.

There's so much to watch for in this game.

[rjmah]

Originally Posted by 663.keith

I for one do not think this game is like tic-tac-toe, there is way more strategy involved (I literally can not lose a game of tic-tac-toe).

Yeah, I've been calling it Hollywood Tetras. You know, "I'll take George to block". It's going to be a team strategy game.

[DrShadowSML]

All of these choices are important. But if I could only pick 1, I'd pick defensive. If your capital isn't defended, you'll lose the war!

[Paul Copioli]

4 ways to own a row with the center goal and 4 ways to own a row without the center goal.


If a team owns their back row (a MUST have, in my book) and just one of the three goals in the center (not necessarily THE center goal), then the opponent can only get one row, too.

This game is full of possibilities. I wonder what the Newton announcer would say for this year's game ....

-Paul


P.S. - Welcome to Atlanta Baby!!!

[663.keith]

OWNING A GOAL - a goal is owned by an alliance if the alliance color corresponds to the last stacked tetra placed on the goal. If there are not tetras stacked on the goal, the color of the highest tetra contained in a goal will determine which alliance wons the goal. If all contained tetras are at the same height, the alliance with a majority of the contained tetras will own the goal