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Re: Tetra Math

one tetra added to the goal is a height increase of exactly 3.5 inches. Therefore, if you just add about 5 tetra's, thats about another foot and a half. So if you have an arm, you would need to have a 10.5 foot at full extension to out class other arms
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Re: Tetra Math

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one tetra added to the goal is a height increase of exactly 3.5 inches.
Where did you get that? From pictures (and according to Dillon Compton) it looks much closer to 6" per tetra.
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Re: Tetra Math

It is 6 inches per tetra...this is comming from someone who's seen them built and stacked on eachother.
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Re: Tetra Math

i calulated using a formula i learned in statistics, the width of the pole vs height/ complicated math suff
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Re: Tetra Math

pole=pvc pipe
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Re: Tetra Math

i made tetra's too and did see that it was 3.5, ill go see if the tetra's was built properly
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Re: Tetra Math

sojouner06, try to edit your posts instead of creating new ones.
ftp://67.170.35.253/robotics/Posting.swf

Anyways, did you take into consideration about the end-caps. Also, when looking at the sidelines during the kickoff, it looked more like 6 inches.
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Re: Tetra Math

I thought that the tetras used at the actual competitions don't have PVC endcaps but instead have flat pieces that screw into the PVC?
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Re: Tetra Math

i was in manchester and saw the offical ones and adding them ontop of each other adds SIX inches....i also tested the how many fit under a goal and 7 perfectly stacked will make it as long as there are no tetras ontop of the goal. if there is a tetra ontop of the goal then you can only fit 4 under
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Re: Tetra Math

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if there is a tetra ontop of the goal then you can only fit 4 under
Why that? Does the tetra ontop block that?
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Re: Tetra Math

think about it here, 6 inches, thats half a foot. Even with end caps at the largest constraint is 4 inches. It is physicaly impossible for it to be a six inch increase per tetra. IMPoSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!! unless someone put it on a freaky way
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Re: Tetra Math

We've also built tetras...it is 6". The sides of one tetra do not even come close to being flush up against the sides of the one below it. I think it is partially because the sides of the lower one get jammed into the corners of the one on top.
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Re: Tetra Math

I wish i had seen this thread sooner. I had to do this math today but oh well i like math. Nice thread.
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Re: Tetra Math

ok i believe it is 6 inches, but wait, how thick are your pipes. The manual said they should be 1 and a quarter inches at pipe and 1.(4-9) inches at endcap

or...maybe...how long are the pipes themselves? 40"? 48"? 70"?

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Re: Tetra Math

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I thought that the tetras used at the actual competitions don't have PVC endcaps but instead have flat pieces that screw into the PVC?
The small tetras have flat clover pieces that screw into the end caps attached to the PVC. The goals are aluminum and will have a angled piece of hardware holding them together. These pieces are visible in the field drawings available on FIRST's documents page.
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