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Swiss Army Knife robot. Does everything 13 24.53%
Specialized robot. Does one thing well. 21 39.62%
In between robot. 19 35.85%
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Unread 11-01-2005, 02:22
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What do you want your robot to do?

Would you rather have a Swiss Army Knife robot that does allot of things so-so, or a specialized robot that does one thing great, or one in between?

Ours will probably do one thing really well

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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

More specifically, we're hoping to make our robot do one thing really well, but also be able to possibly, maybe, remotely, somewhat, do other things too.
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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

Ours will do everything well....
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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

Nothing is more dangerous in FIRST than trying to make a robot that does everything (too complicated. too many things that can break). Better to make a specialized, reliable robot that other teams can count on.
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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

last year, my team ended up trying to make a pocket knife for a bot. It failed miserably. It fell over, we had to cut functions off, etc. It was a nightmare. Just remember the KISS theory, Keep It Simple Stupid. If you follow that theory, your robot will most likely work well
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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

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last year, my team ended up trying to make a pocket knife for a bot. It failed miserably. It fell over, we had to cut functions off, etc. It was a nightmare. Just remember the KISS theory, Keep It Simple Stupid. If you follow that theory, your robot will most likely work well
Certainly a great opinion
I agree
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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

Yeah, swiss army bots rarely actually work out in practice quite the way that they worked in theory. You're spreading precious resources, like time, far to thin, and the result can often be that your robot CAN do many thinjgs, but none very well at all. Specializing this year is MUCH easier than it was last year because the large point boosters all result from roughly the same thing, "stacking." Our team will be going for a bot that stacks, and stacks well
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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

I think that everybody should consider putting a switch on their robot to either disable or change their autonomous mode (e.g. if switch on, autonomous mode off).
Since the best use of autonomous is PROBABLY getting a vision-tetra or two on the center goal, many teams will be going for it. If your alliance partner can do it better than you, then you should probably turn yours off (or at least redeploy your autonomous to do something different) so that you don't hinder your teammate's effort in any way. Such a switch will keep you from having to disable autonomous by re-downloading your code before the match.
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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

I want one that can do what it has to in any situation. Not necessarily that it can do everything, but just what it has to. Definitely somewhere in between the swiss army knife idea and a specialized bot.
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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

We were discussing last night some of the things we would like our robot to be able to do. Basically, we'll be really strong in one area, with still the possibility to do something else, but maybe not as well as what we're strong with. Definitely not a swiss army 'bot, though. As others have stated, that gets complicated quick.
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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

Well personally i want ours to do everything while balencing checkbooks, doing homework, playing the violin, and making us coffee all at the same time.

but having a specialized robot seems like it would work good becuase its one thing to worry about going wrong, probably the coffee maker.
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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

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Well personally i want ours to do everything while balencing checkbooks, doing homework, playing the violin, and making us coffee all at the same time.

but having a specialized robot seems like it would work good becuase its one thing to worry about going wrong, probably the coffee maker.
Hey, that would be fun. I would love a good robot to make me expresso in the morning. Mmm... expresso....
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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

i want my robot to be happy doing what it does best... and not to break at critical moments.... i do not want to be angry at my robot. it should at least have a distortion field to perrie any damage that might be done... plus it needs to infect people with a love for pink and FIRST Robotics! it also needs to do anything Dave Lavery, Woody Flowers, or Dean Kamen (of course) wish it to do.
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You all have a far too narrow scope on things.
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Re: What do you want your robot to do?

our team really doesnt kno wat our robot is going to do yet, whether itll be a swiss army knife or a specialized bot, i would prefer to have a specialized bot that does one thing really good so that we can fit into an alliance but we could also have it do some other things with that we could use in a critical time if we have to
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