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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

can someone post some quick deminsions of the dewalt assemblies....notable the fisher price combo. the nominal length of the entire tranny, the dia. of the neck and the length of the neck. just rough dimensions will do. thanks.
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

I wanted to offer that the clamshells for the 12, 14.4 and 18 volt cordless DeWalt XRP's are interchangable for our purpose. My team also had some luck turning up limited quantities of parts with froogle.com. Also, MaxTools.com will sell you the appropriate 14.4V XRP drill for $99 + $10 shipping a piece. Unfortunatly, our local DeWalt Dealer has been unable to help us.
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

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I am having problems getting the clamshells also. I reordered the clamshells
part # 394511-00 and got them in 5 days. If you look at the different model numbers of the cordless drills you can find substitution parts you can use. Our local Dewalt Dealer is helping me with this problem.

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I wanted to offer that the clamshells for the 12, 14.4 and 18 volt cordless DeWalt XRP's are interchangable for our purpose. My team also had some luck turning up limited quantities of parts with froogle.com. Also, MaxTools.com will sell you the appropriate 14.4V XRP drill for $99 + $10 shipping a piece. Unfortunatly, our local DeWalt Dealer has been unable to help us.
Thanks guys! In fact I am aware of the interchange-ability for our use between the 12V, 14.4V, and 18V models. I am attaching a spreadsheet that I generated with all of that information, including Dewalt ServiceNET pricing for needed parts (non-common parts are highlighted).

I think I have found a source for the 12V model (DC980KA) for around $75 (without battery) INCLUDING shipping. Now we just have to see how quickly they get here!!

I will check on available quantities and report back (including shipping info)...
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

I have a couple quick Questions.

Has anyone had problems removing the chuck off the end of the drill?
And How did you end up getting it off?

We are having problems with it and we need some help!
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

Yes, we had trouble. Ended up using heat and impulsive force; i.e., torch, punch, and hammer. That loosened the (left) threads so we could get the chuck off. The trick is using just enough heat and impulsive force to get the job done, and not enough to break things. We had a very experienced tech-ed teacher lead the students through the exercise.
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

There is screw that must be undone that is inside the chuck. I believe that it is reverse threaded. To get the rest of the chuck off, we used a socket wrench with a long lever attached to it. To interface the wrench with the chuck we used a hex adapter (something that fits in the socket and is hex-shaped at the other end). The adapter also needs to fit into the chuck. Tighten the chuck around the adapter and use the wrench to carefully unscrew the chuck.
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

It is easier and cheaper to order individual parts as per the NBD White Papers.

Dewalt has a great website http://www.dewaltservicenet.com

And YES they can be shifted with a simple servo.
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

Thanks For the help guys.

Does anyone else have some more ideas?
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

Hey my team is very interested in NBD. Last year we used the Andy Mark 2 speeds trannys for the drive train. They just didn't seem to be worth the weight and cost. My questions are:
  • How reliable is "shifting on the fly"? Anyone have major failures?
  • Is it unreliable because of servos not acting at the same time or just the characteristics of the NBD?
  • IF it is the servos, would replacing them with pneumatics fix this? Seems to me like it would. anyone tried?
  • Would using two CIMs to one Dewalt transmission be too much for the Dewalt? Is an extra CIM even worth it? (drivetrain)
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

To answer above, it was fairly reliable last year, with no major failures. The unreliable part was piano wire was very hard to work with and we ended up using a ball link. We decided not to shift to all 3, just using 2, as the servo did not have enough power alone. Pneumatics can be used, just may be harder to integrate. We used the extra CIM, and our friends, 1070, did not.
They had an effective time I think with the NBD setup, and so did we. Definitely hard to create an adapter mid-season without instructions to fit 2 CIMs into the NBD, but the BaneBot 2 CIM adapter helped. Mounting also was a difficulte problem to solve mid-season. Planning ahead can help reduce the stress if you guys go with 2CIMs into one DeWalt.

I have a question....

The newer model DC940 is now out, and its hard to find the model that the NBD was made for (DC980KA). Does anyone have the specs or a CAD of the new DeWalt drill tranny?
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

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The newer model DC940 is now out, and its hard to find the model that the NBD was made for (DC980KA). Does anyone have the specs or a CAD of the new DeWalt drill tranny?
Does anyone know of a place to find the DC980KA anymore?
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

Richard,

If you're just looking for parts for a NDB transmission, go here: http://www.dewaltservicenet.com/
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

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Does anyone know of a place to find the DC980KA anymore?
Try checking with your local Dewalt service center. They have always had them in stock for us.
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Re: White Paper Discuss: Nothing But Dewalts

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I wanted to offer that the clamshells for the 12, 14.4 and 18 volt cordless DeWalt XRP's are interchangable for our purpose. My team also had some luck turning up limited quantities of parts with froogle.com. Also, MaxTools.com will sell you the appropriate 14.4V XRP drill for $99 + $10 shipping a piece. Unfortunatly, our local DeWalt Dealer has been unable to help us.
We have extra clamshells now and you guys are located near.
Give us a call and if you need clamshells, help or advice we are willing.
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