Who Owns This Goal

The following situation came up. The Red tetra is on the Blue, but the Blue is higher. The Red vertex is within 6 inches, the Blue isn't. I say Red owns the goal. What do you thinK?

[rmmlg]

I agree that Red owns the goal since it appears that the Red is on top of the blue, even though the blue is higher (interesting little paradox). How was it that the tetras got in that position (i e, in which odrer were they placed onto the goal?)

[Petey]

Originally Posted by rmmlg

I agree that Red owns the goal since it appears that the Red is on top of the blue, even though the blue is higher (interesting little paradox). How was it that the tetras got in that position (i e, in which odrer were they placed onto the goal?)

It is a question of interpretation, but the rules do state that the tetra that is physically higher gets ownership, so I'm going to break the trend and go with blue.

Has anyone asked this in an update?

--Petey

[dk5sm5luigi]

If blue is indeed in scoring position (the 6" rule and stuff) then I would say blue because if you look at the back corner it shows that blue was put on top slightly after red was.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Petey

It is a question of interpretation, but the rules do state that the tetra that is physically higher gets ownership, so I'm going to break the trend and go with blue.

Has anyone asked this in an update?

--Petey

yeah, but for that to happen blue has to be "scored" which, according to FIRST, means within 6"

[Haldir 122690]

How did you even manage to get the tetras in that position anyway? Seriously. Do you even think the tetras will get in that position in a match anyway?

[Katie Reynolds]

Originally Posted by Haldir 122690

How did you even manage to get the tetras in that position anyway? Seriously. Do you even think the tetras will get in that position in a match anyway?

Read the thread before you ask questions.

Originally Posted by rmmlg

... How was it that the tetras got in that position (i e, in which odrer were they placed onto the goal?)

Originally Posted by Dr.Bot

We were messing around, putting tetras on two at a time, and they got tangled. This is unlikely to happen during competition, but we need to thank about all the 'angles.'

[pyroslev]

I say Red but at the actual competition, it may depend upon the opinion of the referee. Red will most likely get the points.

[sj31419]

Well i guess it would be the blue since the rules say that the tetra must be completely on the tetra or it isn't counted as on it.

[sj31419]

Well,now that I think about it red is on completely.How did he do that anyone know?

We were messing around, putting tetras on two at a time, and they got tangled. This is unlikely to happen during competition, but we need to thank about all the 'angles.'

[663.keith]

red owns the goal if the blue tetra is more than 6 inches away from the vertex.

[Steve W]

Originally Posted by Dr.Bot

We were messing around, putting tetras on two at a time, and they got tangled. This is unlikely to happen during competition, but we need to thank about all the 'angles.'

It probably will as we did the exact same thing while testing.

[Petey]

A check of the definition of "scored" and "stacked" proves that neither the red nor the blue tetras are stacked on the black tetra.

--Petey

[Max Lobovsky]

So then the only way more points could be scored on this goal, or that the goal can change ownership is by removing these two tetras which would now be legal?