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Re: The decision of indecision on FIRST's part.

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Wrong, and you needent make remarks like this in unrelated threads. Don't lie to yourself thinking that just one person in the history of humanity has ever changed their mind. If you want to talk about this, start a thread in Chit-Chat. Get back to your robot, surfing CD, or talk about why this is or isn't a stupid rule.

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Re: The decision of indecision on FIRST's part.

After considering the situation, I came to the conclusion that not only is it not graciously professional to "steal" other tetras, but you cannot determine if you are in the way or not. A robot may go for that and you don't notice while you're in the loading zone, but they have to change their strategy knowing you are there. Let me give another example: if another robot was in your endzone at the end of the round, they are technically in the way whether you are heading for it or not. There are simply more beneficial things you could be doing.

Also, getting opponent tetras onto the field is a tad bad for your strategy. Means their robot that can pick them up can just get to the tetras a bit easier.
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Re: The decision of indecision on FIRST's part.

Taking an opponents tetra seems bad from the strategy standpoint because
  1. There are two automated stations, you aren't going to slow them down but so much.
  2. What are you going to do with their tetra once you get it? Put it on a goal for them? And if you drop it outside the field it will just be added back to their stack.
  3. I think that it is a total waste of time. You could have picked up one (or more) of your own tetras, scored it, and received three points ( or maybe even 10 more for making a row).
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Re: The decision of indecision on FIRST's part.

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Wrong, and you needent make remarks like this in unrelated threads. Don't lie to yourself thinking that just one person in the history of humanity has ever changed their mind. If you want to talk about this, start a thread in Chit-Chat. Get back to your robot, surfing CD, or talk about why this is or isn't a stupid rule.

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It was a joke. I would heartily roll my eyes at anyone who would seriously say anything that stupid, or at anyone who jumped on the "LOL FLIPFLOP LOL" bandwagon last year.

Now, about this rule. I don't think there's any reason a robot on one team should not be allowed to steal another team's tetras. The supply is pretty much limitless, and with all the loading stations I think the only problem that will result from this is a field strewn with tetras.
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Re: The decision of indecision on FIRST's part.

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Now, about this rule. I don't think there's any reason a robot on one team should not be allowed to steal another team's tetras. The supply is pretty much limitless, and with all the loading stations I think the only problem that will result from this is a field strewn with tetras.
Agreed. People go pretty nuts with "Gracious Professionalism". Gracious Professionalism has absolutely nothing to do with playing by using a un-traditional strategy. You aren't destroying anybody's hardwork or hurting anyone. If It's within the rules of the game, how is one strategy "GP" and another not?
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Re: The decision of indecision on FIRST's part.

Again, everyone chill out or this thread is going to get closed. Stay on topic
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