Go to Post Why is it whenever you tell someone there is a million billion stars in the universe they believe you, but if you tell someone that the bench over yonder has wet paint, or if usfirst.org comes up as the 1st result in Google people have to try it for themselves? - artdutra04 [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-29-2005, 11:53 AM
Tom McCurdy's Avatar
Tom McCurdy Tom McCurdy is offline
Physics-Electronics
#1677 (QuantumNinja)
Team Role: Webmaster
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Portage, Michigan
Posts: 49
Tom McCurdy will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to Tom McCurdy
Number of People Needed at Event

What would you say is the minimum and the optimal amount of people needed at competition?
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-29-2005, 12:01 PM
DarkJedi613's Avatar
DarkJedi613 DarkJedi613 is offline
Running Riot
AKA: Patrick Cloke
FRC #0358 (Hauppauge Robotic Eagles) FRC #1493 (RPI/Albany High School)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Hauppauge, N.Y.
Posts: 455
DarkJedi613 is a splendid one to beholdDarkJedi613 is a splendid one to beholdDarkJedi613 is a splendid one to beholdDarkJedi613 is a splendid one to beholdDarkJedi613 is a splendid one to beholdDarkJedi613 is a splendid one to beholdDarkJedi613 is a splendid one to behold
Send a message via AIM to DarkJedi613 Send a message via MSN to DarkJedi613 Send a message via Yahoo to DarkJedi613
Re: Number of People Needed at Event

I'm not quite sure what you mean. I think the more people at each event is better. Get as many people as you can. Members of the team, friends of team members, parents, siblings, other teachers, administration, etc.

The "minimum" is as many as possible and the optimal is the same.

In the pit however, is an entirely different story. You want 3 or 4 students maximum and 2 or 3 mentors. Anything more than that and no work can be done.
__________________
2003 - 2006 President, Coach, Webmaster Team358.org
2008 Mentor, Team 1493

Team Search | (Updated: 1-16-08)

FIRSTsearch
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-29-2005, 02:16 PM
Eugenia Gabrielov's Avatar
Eugenia Gabrielov Eugenia Gabrielov is offline
Counting Down to Kickoff
FRC #0461 (Westside Boiler Invasion)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: West Lafayette
Posts: 1,470
Eugenia Gabrielov has a reputation beyond reputeEugenia Gabrielov has a reputation beyond reputeEugenia Gabrielov has a reputation beyond reputeEugenia Gabrielov has a reputation beyond reputeEugenia Gabrielov has a reputation beyond reputeEugenia Gabrielov has a reputation beyond reputeEugenia Gabrielov has a reputation beyond reputeEugenia Gabrielov has a reputation beyond reputeEugenia Gabrielov has a reputation beyond reputeEugenia Gabrielov has a reputation beyond reputeEugenia Gabrielov has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Number of People Needed at Event

Team 461 has a simple system on who goes to the comp:

1) The Pit Crew
Like said above, this is a small core group. It should include a couple mentors, your drive team, and a few other students. I think ours generally comes out as 10 people. They leave Wednesday night or Thusrday Morning of competition and the rest of the team, which isn't needed at that time technically, comes the Friday of competition.

It is important to choose your crews carefully.

2) General people
Encourage as many as you can to go, but if you're travellin to Atlanta from somewhere up north and it involves plane tickets, be sure to sort everything out ahead of time. At your home regional? Have at it! . Be sure to respect the decision of the venue.
__________________
Northwestern University
McCormick School of Engineering 2010
Computer Science

Team 461 for life!
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-29-2005, 02:24 PM
Billfred's Avatar
Billfred Billfred is offline
...and you can't! teach! that!
FRC #5402 (Iron Kings); no team (AndyMark)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: The Land of the Kokomese, IN
Posts: 8,476
Billfred has a reputation beyond reputeBillfred has a reputation beyond reputeBillfred has a reputation beyond reputeBillfred has a reputation beyond reputeBillfred has a reputation beyond reputeBillfred has a reputation beyond reputeBillfred has a reputation beyond reputeBillfred has a reputation beyond reputeBillfred has a reputation beyond reputeBillfred has a reputation beyond reputeBillfred has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Number of People Needed at Event

Theoretically, your minimum would be one (your human player).

Realistically, I've seen teams do a regional with anywhere from about eight (they traveled a really long way) to about forty people. Season to taste.

(Of course, at Palmetto I'm telling all the folks I know to come on out with the free admission and the robots. People dig robots.)
__________________
William "Billfred" Leverette - Gamecock/Jessica Boucher victim/Marketing & Sales Specialist at AndyMark

2004-2006: FRC 1293 (D5 Robotics) - Student, Mentor, Coach
2007-2009: FRC 1618 (Capital Robotics) - Mentor, Coach
2009-2013: FRC 2815 (Los Pollos Locos) - Mentor, Coach - Palmetto '09, Peachtree '11, Palmetto '11, Palmetto '12
2010: FRC 1398 (Keenan Robo-Raiders) - Mentor - Palmetto '10
2014-2016: FRC 4901 (Garnet Squadron) - Co-Founder and Head Bot Coach - Orlando '14, SCRIW '16
2017-: FRC 5402 (Iron Kings) - Mentor

93 events (more than will fit in a ChiefDelphi signature), 13 seasons, over 60,000 miles, and still on a mission from Bob.

Rule #1: Do not die. Rule #2: Be respectful. Rule #3: Be safe. Rule #4: Follow the handbook.
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-29-2005, 04:05 PM
Bcahn836's Avatar
Bcahn836 Bcahn836 is offline
Iraq is fun.
AKA: Brad Cahn
no team (Robobees 836)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Camp Taji, Iraq
Posts: 1,774
Bcahn836 has a reputation beyond reputeBcahn836 has a reputation beyond reputeBcahn836 has a reputation beyond reputeBcahn836 has a reputation beyond reputeBcahn836 has a reputation beyond reputeBcahn836 has a reputation beyond reputeBcahn836 has a reputation beyond reputeBcahn836 has a reputation beyond reputeBcahn836 has a reputation beyond reputeBcahn836 has a reputation beyond reputeBcahn836 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Bcahn836 Send a message via Yahoo to Bcahn836
Re: Number of People Needed at Event

We take as many as we can afford. But the essentials would be
. . .
Drivers, human player, at least one from the following groups, electronics, programming, mechanics, manufacturing. That way if something breaks you have the people that built it there to fix it. Add the manufacturing group and you have a pit crew.

We bring however 2-3 from each group and add Public Relations and Marketing for our cheering section and our mascots. Which for our first regional will be 24 students and 5 mentors and parents. Our second regional is just up the road so we are bringing just about everyone, thats a really big cheering section, about 40.
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-29-2005, 06:44 PM
Koko Ed's Avatar
Koko Ed Koko Ed is offline
Serial Volunteer
AKA: Ed Patterson
FRC #0191 (X-Cats)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: Rochester,NY
Posts: 22,916
Koko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond reputeKoko Ed has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Number of People Needed at Event

There was a rookie team at Buckeye from St. Ignatus last year with only one member .
Got a rookie award for it.
Wouldn't recommend going to competition with only member though.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-30-2005, 03:28 AM
elknise's Avatar
elknise elknise is offline
Registered User
AKA: Erik Knise
FRC #1318 (Issaquah Robotics)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Issaquah, WA
Posts: 73
elknise will become famous soon enoughelknise will become famous soon enough
Re: Number of People Needed at Event

I think about 8 or 9 people from our team are going and it spreads out over every team so if we have to totally dismantle the robot from pneumatics to drive train to the arm, I couldn't see doing that with only 2 or three students. Also, no matter how many people go to the event, make sure everyone knows how to put everything back together and where parts go.
__________________
Elknise

Issaquah Robotics
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-30-2005, 03:51 AM
russell's Avatar
russell russell is offline
Registered User
#1430 (WRONG)
Team Role: Electrical
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Anchorage AK
Posts: 402
russell is a name known to allrussell is a name known to allrussell is a name known to allrussell is a name known to allrussell is a name known to allrussell is a name known to all
Re: Number of People Needed at Event

Its interesting. I was just thinking about this earlier today. First (I think in the game section) the manual says that a team is four people, but later (I think in the section about the events) it says that at least one person has to report in order for a team to get a score. I would go find those bits but I am almost over my bandwidth limit and I dont have the manual on this computer.

As for what I think your question actually was I would recomend that if you are a small team you should take everyone. Last year we had seven people and we all went. This year we have about six or seven members there every day of the week from two until six and ten til six on weekends and we will probably all go, then we have some sort of fringe elements who show up for the (free) food and to listen to our music and just generally hang out. They probably wont go, though I dont know for sure. You just dont want your pit area too crowded. Give extra people clipboards and have them take notes on and pictures of other teams bots. Our pictures from last year were great for ideas this year, and I wish we had taken notes.
Reply With Quote
  #9   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-30-2005, 09:55 AM
tiffany34990 tiffany34990 is offline
Registered User
no team
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Rookie Year: 2000
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,239
tiffany34990 has a reputation beyond reputetiffany34990 has a reputation beyond reputetiffany34990 has a reputation beyond reputetiffany34990 has a reputation beyond reputetiffany34990 has a reputation beyond reputetiffany34990 has a reputation beyond reputetiffany34990 has a reputation beyond reputetiffany34990 has a reputation beyond reputetiffany34990 has a reputation beyond reputetiffany34990 has a reputation beyond reputetiffany34990 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to tiffany34990
Re: Number of People Needed at Event

well truely you need the human player, a mentor, driver and operator and you can go to competition but a couple extra people and a mentor wouldn't really hurt

my team usually bring about 20-30 to each competition but that's us
Reply With Quote
  #10   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-30-2005, 02:10 PM
Jaine Perotti Jaine Perotti is offline
...misses her old team.
AKA: BurningQuestion
FRC #0716 (The Who'sCTEKS)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: May 2004
Rookie Year: 2003
Location: Melbourne, FL
Posts: 979
Jaine Perotti has a reputation beyond reputeJaine Perotti has a reputation beyond reputeJaine Perotti has a reputation beyond reputeJaine Perotti has a reputation beyond reputeJaine Perotti has a reputation beyond reputeJaine Perotti has a reputation beyond reputeJaine Perotti has a reputation beyond reputeJaine Perotti has a reputation beyond reputeJaine Perotti has a reputation beyond reputeJaine Perotti has a reputation beyond reputeJaine Perotti has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Jaine Perotti Send a message via MSN to Jaine Perotti Send a message via Yahoo to Jaine Perotti
Re: Number of People Needed at Event

Quote:
Like said above, this is a small core group. It should include a couple mentors, your drive team, and a few other students. I think ours generally comes out as 10 people.
Typically, our team has way less than that be a part of the pit crew. We usually end up having only about 4-5 people max in the pits, including mentors (generally its 2 mentors, and 3 students). If you have too many people in the pit, it may end up becoming way too crowded. The pits are small, and it is difficult to fit everyone in at one time. In fact, our team has a rule about this; if you are not a member of the pit crew, you are not allowed to be in our team's pit area (unless its just to have a quick word with someone).

When our team was young, our pit crew was also our drive crew and cheering section. We used to only have about 3-4 core members of the team. Now our team has burgeoned to a membership of about 20, with 3 on the pit crew, 3 on the drive crew, and the rest scouting or presenting the chairmains award. These roles tend to overlap a bit...and no one is strictly limited to one job, as long as it is practical. For example, I was the pit captain last year, but I also was one of the chairman's award presenters.

One concern that people may have over not letting very many people in the pits is that not many students get a chance to have "hands on time" with the robot. One of the things that our team is going to try this year is having two pit crews which will work in rotating shifts. That way, more people get to have "robot time", and it gives members of the pit crew a chance to relax, eat, and watch the matches.

We don't quite know how this system will work out yet, but we are hoping it will be a success.
__________________
Florida Institute of Technology
Ocean Engineering, '12
Reply With Quote
  #11   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-30-2005, 06:13 PM
ConKbot of Doom ConKbot of Doom is offline
Team Alumni
FRC #1184 (Cobra Robotics)
Team Role: Leadership
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2004
Location: Maryland
Posts: 153
ConKbot of Doom has a spectacular aura aboutConKbot of Doom has a spectacular aura aboutConKbot of Doom has a spectacular aura about
Re: Number of People Needed at Event

Our team is only 37 people this year, so we are taking everyone who can go to the regionals. So it should only be about 40 people by time you account for mentors and people who aren't going.

In the pits it is typically just the people who have a working knowlege of the robot. This year it will probably be me, some of the machinists, some of the wiring team, and some people for general stuff.
Reply With Quote
  #12   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 01-30-2005, 07:19 PM
Drake Drake is offline
www.sjharobotics.org
AKA: Ricardo
FRC #0581 (The Bulldogs)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Rookie Year: 2002
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 17
Drake is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Number of People Needed at Event

The bare minimum for participating is one member. However, for playing the game you need at least a driver, a human player, and if you need a secondary driver, then three people. If you have a mentor, then 4 people. Some teamshave anywhere from 4 people, upto 50 people. Sadly my team is about half a mile from the silicon valley regional, and yet we only have about 6 or 7 students plus 2 or 3 mentors. A team from Hawaii came to the Silicon Valley regional a couple years ago and they came with 30 or 40 people, plus their 10 or so member pit crew. Your pit crew shouldn't consist of more than 5 or 6 students and a mentor. It gets to crowded after that, especially when local kids come down, and start going into the pit and getting in the way of everything. Ideally you want your 7 people tea plus a cheering section of about 15 to 30 people.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
**FIRST EMAIL**/Second Event Registration Reminder and Wait List Information Rich Wong FIRST E-Mail Blast Archive 0 10-27-2004 05:16 PM
A report on off season competitions Ken Leung Off-Season Events 2 10-17-2003 01:30 PM
Ham Radio At Nats RebAl General Forum 63 04-19-2002 08:15 PM
Disney Extortion! K2unit General Forum 62 03-29-2002 11:16 AM
WASH scouting fields Mike Soukup Scouting 0 02-04-2002 02:39 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:51 PM.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi