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Re: Regarding <G13> - placement of the tetra by the human player.
It's been previously proven that the "optimal" place to get a tetra is from the auto-load station preferred over the human-load station; see other threads.
That being stated, the auto-load station is "X" inches off the floor. Why then would you want to add to the robot complexity by introducing a "new" position to some other height than what is already programmed in for the auto-load pick-up height. Also, a floor-height pick-up position simply makes the human player do that much more work (bending, etc). It also introduces the risk that the human player (in bending over the field border) may also mistakenly come into contact with the robot (a rule violation) |
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Re: Regarding <G13> - placement of the tetra by the human player.
Unless a team built their robot precariously to receive only human player tetras - I can't see the use in the human player. You can get almost twice as many tets from the auto loaders in a given time span. Then as you said compounding the penalty risk of touching the bot. The standing still time factor while becoming an easier target. I don't understand why they handicapped the human player so bad. The only way I can see salvaging the usefulness of the HP is if they let them load (2) tets at a time. Otherwise these HP's will simply help push the bot's to/from the field and focus on NOT getting off that pad.
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Re: Regarding <G13> - placement of the tetra by the human player.
SwampDude,
you've got it exactly right. The BIGGEST risk in the entire game will be to make sure that the human players do NOT move off the pad(s). This will require real ORCHESTRATION from the driver and/or coach to "flag" the human players as to when it's "safe" to get off the pad. Namely, I think that the human players should face AWAY from the field, grasping their pile of tetras, and ONLY turn around once the driver has signaled that the robot is FULLY in the loading station. If the HP leaves prematurely, you're cooked. Lastly, I still think that the robot should "accept" a tetra from the HP at the SAME height/orientation that gets used at the auto-load station. The robot will ONLY go down to floor level if it is going after a visual tetra (during auto period) or if the robot is placing a tetra under a goal (which only gains one point). So, personally IMHO, I'd have a robot that could ONLY have two heights (pick-up/load height, and an "adjustable" goal-top height) |
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Re: Regarding <G13> - placement of the tetra by the human player.
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Re: Regarding <G13> - placement of the tetra by the human player.
The rule states that the human player can put the tetra " on or in " the robot. Since there is no mention of " on the floor " you can bet that the same rule applies as at the start of the game. The tetra cannot be placed such that it is touching the ground or rail. If it falls off that is okay but if deemed intentional there could be a penalty.
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