PHP Nuke

[Max Lobovsky]

I don't understand why people keep saying something like "premade CMSs may work, but it will never be as good as something homemade" when all the software being discussed is open source. You can take any of these "premade CMSs" and do whatever you like with them. In fact, all the better CMSs (not PHP nuke) with good APIs and module/plugin resources are designed to do just that. They take all the basic CMS stuff (database, session, user, etc management) out of the developer's hands and just lets them write the unique application they want to write.

[roboticsguy1988]

Ok...........this year i am using PHP-Nuke on our teams website. When i started it it was the first time i had used a CMS, so i didn't know about all the other better ones....... not to mention the ones that are fully validated.

Even though we use a CMS it STILL takes A-LOT of time to modify......... and mange.

After this season i think i am going to trash PHP-Nuke and go with another CMS. I say YES any website made with a CMS should be aloud to be entered........ people like me who use a CMS spend just as much time if not more working on there website as other people who do not use a CMS.

But my only suggestion is if your going to use a CMS DO NOT use PHP-Nuke!!!!

[Max Lobovsky]

Personally, I recommend PostNuke (www.postnuke.com). It's what our teams site is built on, and its what at least two team sites with awards are built on.

[roboticsguy1988]

Originally Posted by Max Lobovsky

Personally, I recommend PostNuke (www.postnuke.com). It's what our teams site is built on, and its what at least two team sites with awards are built on.

Is PostNuke fully validated by W3C standards?

[Max Lobovsky]

It depends what standards you are talking about and what parts of PostNuke. Many people run PostNuke sites compatibly with even the most strict standards (like 508 accesibility), but it is largely up to you to make sure your theme is valid. With just a few exceptions, the core code outputted is all legal. Our site almost validates except for a small bug in the links, that i havent gotten around to fixing

[roboticsguy1988]

Originally Posted by Max Lobovsky

It depends what standards you are talking about and what parts of PostNuke. Many people run PostNuke sites compatibly with even the most strict standards (like 508 accesibility), but it is largely up to you to make sure your theme is valid. With just a few exceptions, the core code outputted is all legal. Our site almost validates except for a small bug in the links, that i havent gotten around to fixing

I see........ i guess i am just looking around for something that is fully validated......... no matter what part you look at. I remember trying postnuke at one time...... but i decided against it for some reason....... i will have to download it and try it out again.

[Max Lobovsky]

There is no way you can find any CMS that has any freedom to customize that will be always fully validated. If the CMS lets you enter HTML to display on pages, use 3rd party plugins/modules, or use custom themes or templates, there is room for error.

[roboticsguy1988]

Originally Posted by Max Lobovsky

There is no way you can find any CMS that has any freedom to customize that will be always fully validated. If the CMS lets you enter HTML to display on pages, use 3rd party plugins/modules, or use custom themes or templates, there is room for error.

Yes there is...... i have found several that are fully validated and that are fully customizable. Granted that they can't validate 3rd party modules, blocks, plugins, modifications, etc. For reference take a look at this http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.p...atid=7&id=1277

[Max Lobovsky]

Originally Posted by roboticsguy1988

Granted that they can't validate 3rd party modules, blocks, plugins, modifications, etc.

That's exactly what I was saying.

[Bharat Nain]

Back to using PHP Nuke, I think its ok to be eligible for the website award. Look, if a team can not design their own website, then they might as well use something like PHP Nuke. Something is better than nothing, granted that it doesn't take much to learn HTML. Who are we to decide what the situation of a certain team is? How do we know how many kids are dedicated and how much time they have to devote to their website? If they win the website award, they sure must have made it look good/done something right/it must be better than other websites that entered for the award.
-Bharat

[roboticsguy1988]

Originally Posted by Bharat Nain

Back to using PHP Nuke, I think its ok to be eligible for the website award. Look, if a team can not design their own website, then they might as well use something like PHP Nuke. Something is better than nothing, granted that it doesn't take much to learn HTML. Who are we to decide what the situation of a certain team is? How do we know how many kids are dedicated and how much time they have to devote to their website? If they win the website award, they sure must have made it look good/done something right/it must be better than other websites that entered for the award.
-Bharat

Exactly! Even for people like me that know HTML, JavaScript, PHP, etc., it is just a lot less time consuming to have all the features of a CMS made and ready to use, than to make them by myself. But like i said before, even while using a CMS....... it takes a lot of time to modify and manage the site.

[roboticsguy1988]

Originally Posted by Max Lobovsky

That's exactly what I was saying.

Ok, Sorry, i misunderstood.