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Unread 26-01-2005, 18:42
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undefinedHello, I'm from rookie team# 1566 and I would like some help with scouting, in the fact that I don't know what we need for stats to put down, because I'm completely new to this, so any help would be appreciated!
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Re: Scouting Help

As a scout for a veteran team, I usually look at what a robot does on the field. The pit crew can say what they want, but actions speak louder than words. My team uses a spreadsheet with all the thing you can do. We have a ranking system for how well a robot does things, and we put a rank into a printout. When a sheet is full, we turn it in for a new one and someone enters the data into the spreadsheet. The different tasks have different weightings based on our robot's function. After qual matches, we use the total of the robot rankings to choose who we want as partners if we are in the top eight.

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Re: Scouting Help

I am head of scouting for my team (25). As you guys are rookies, I would most likely advise you to make sure you do Pit Scouting. Go into the pits and ask teams questinos about their robots. Most, if not all teams will be more than likely to help you out. Make sure you get the basics down first:
1. main functions that it can accomplish
2. autonomous
3. motors and other movement devices
4. types of wheels
etc, etc
I reccomend not getting to bogged down on the superadvanced stuff. Just get to know your opponents and know them well and you guys will be fine.
Also, for some examples of scouting sheets, check the white papers section. I know that a lot of teams put up their scouting sheets on there.
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Re: Scouting Help

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I am head of scouting for my team (25). As you guys are rookies, I would most likely advise you to make sure you do Pit Scouting. Go into the pits and ask teams questinos about their robots. Most, if not all teams will be more than likely to help you out. Make sure you get the basics down first:
1. main functions that it can accomplish
2. autonomous
3. motors and other movement devices
4. types of wheels
etc, etc
I reccomend not getting to bogged down on the superadvanced stuff. Just get to know your opponents and know them well and you guys will be fine.
Also, for some examples of scouting sheets, check the white papers section. I know that a lot of teams put up their scouting sheets on there.
Best of luck in then '05 season!
Thanks, I can really use the help right about now.
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Re: Scouting Help

Neil forgot something. At our Kickoff event this year, the ECDU ran a workshop on Scouting, we have a powerpoint presentation that we had made, that has some decent info on it, ill try to get it in an email for you, or post it in the whitepapers.
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Re: Scouting Help

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Neil forgot something. At our Kickoff event this year, the ECDU ran a workshop on Scouting, we have a powerpoint presentation that we had made, that has some decent info on it, ill try to get it in an email for you, or post it in the whitepapers.
I thank you deeply and can't think of any other way to appreciate the info except for presenting it to the team. I hope that will do your hard work justice.
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Re: Scouting Help

I have a whitepaper that my team will use for scouting this year. we generally just write notes about the other teams, like what they do during autonomous, and how well they can manipulate the scoring objects. its pretty basic, but I hope it can help.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/pa...le&paperid=424
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Re: Scouting Help

For those that like scouting in the pits, veteran students have a better chance than rookies do. One of our mentors was on the team last year, and he said that he could tell how good a robot was just by looking at it in the pits. (He had five years experience at that point.) He also said that he didn't believe rookies who said they could do everything. (sorry rookies). Personally, I prefer field scouting, but you need at least two people, preferably more.
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Re: Scouting Help

For most of the first day, and part of friday we usually have every extra person help out with scouting. We send people through the pits to every team with questionares to get a basic idea of what there robot hopes to accomplish and how they've done so far in the season. And we have everyone else up in the stands writing down the results of robots in their acctual matches. By the end of friday we usually have 2 or 3 write ups for every robot on how they did in their matches. Recording teams progress in an acctual match has proven the best source of knowledge on what a robot can really do.
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Re: Scouting Help

check out our strategy application for pocketpc and or a desktop. It has a firly good way of categorizing a teams robot by watching their performance. Check our thread for more details.

our app will be available for download @5pm 3/2/05 http://heatwave.cat.pinellas.k12.fl.us/
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