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Unread 12-02-2005, 12:58
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Robot color issues.

About 30 seconds ago while working on our electrical board, we realized something: the colors we use every year for the same boards are blue and gold (our school's colors). This year, however, FIRST has us working with color tracking cameras that pick up blue, yellow, green, and red. Now we realize that we need to use some form of color that wouldn't lead a robot to follow us, but we were wondering if anyone else had given thought to this. In the rules, there is something about making your robots untraceable, isn't there?
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Re: Robot color issues.

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About 30 seconds ago while working on our electrical board, we realized something: the colors we use every year for the same boards are blue and gold (our school's colors). This year, however, FIRST has us working with color tracking cameras that pick up blue, yellow, green, and red. Now we realize that we need to use some form of color that wouldn't lead a robot to follow us, but we were wondering if anyone else had given thought to this. In the rules, there is something about making your robots untraceable, isn't there?
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I'm Kiara from team 1304. We had the same question but it is ok to use your colors. The only problem is that one of your partners might get attracted to your robot instead of the tetra. So it's a judgement call to decide if you are going to use those colors.
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Unread 12-02-2005, 13:41
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Re: Robot color issues.

Thanks for the input, but we will probably play it safe and use different colors (its looking like either staining or black) because in the rules it says it is fine as long as its not intentional, but it is really up to the judges' interpretation. We wouldn't be looking forward to a penalty or a robot crashing into us ^^;;.
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Unread 12-02-2005, 16:26
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Re: Robot color issues.

Its fine to paint your robot any color you want, but not to change color between matches. The reason, if you want to risk having a certain colored robot, go ahead, but you cant change it out if you want to not attract someone for a match.
And anyways, as long as your color isnt too close to the acutal color value of the tracked color, it shouldnt draw attention anyway(go with a lighter or darker shade than the one tracked by the camera).
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Unread 12-02-2005, 16:53
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Re: Robot color issues.

you should chrome it!
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Re: Robot color issues.

There’s this thing called Gracious Professionalism I've heard around FIRST. Just use your best judgment when your considering what color. I know we changed our board’s normal color from red to white for this. Don't want 2 other robots converging on us.
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Re: Robot color issues.

I'd classify a team that does this to be one full of freshmen (or annoying ).

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Re: Robot color issues.

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About 30 seconds ago while working on our electrical board, we realized something: the colors we use every year for the same boards are blue and gold (our school's colors). This year, however, FIRST has us working with color tracking cameras that pick up blue, yellow, green, and red. Now we realize that we need to use some form of color that wouldn't lead a robot to follow us, but we were wondering if anyone else had given thought to this. In the rules, there is something about making your robots untraceable, isn't there?
Do you have a CMU cam hooked up, or know a team who does? You could quickly check to see if it picks up the colors on your robot. As far as I can tell, the camera is very picky when it comes to the colors it will track.
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that is a thing my team is kinda saying (#1501) but ow well there is going to be fun with the colors if they are a problem i would use it to bring the other teams robots to follow your bot its going to be funny and not funny but i will say that is will be funny
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Re: Robot color issues.

The arms on our robot are red. Red is part of our team colors. We're not out to cause any problems for anyone else that just how we designed the robot. FIRST shouldn't expect teams to give up their identity for the sake of a game element.
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Re: Robot color issues.

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The arms on our robot are red. Red is part of our team colors. We're not out to cause any problems for anyone else that just how we designed the robot. FIRST shouldn't expect teams to give up their identity for the sake of a game element.
I agree. And thus, I will feel no remorse if by accident our robot happens to charge at a MOE drive team member.

I don't think our red will be of any distraction either.
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Re: Robot color issues.

Heh, our school colors are red and gold/yellow so Maybe ill crack open a can of spray paint to paint it as far as I know in the past there have never been a robot painted on our team so hmmm. Change is good.
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Re: Robot color issues.

Team 177 has changed it's standard bright yellow to a metallic gold so that no interference occurs. The change was an easy one and required just a small comprimise on our teams part.

To do less would have been petty and foolish IMHO.
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Re: Robot color issues.

mirror coat a robot! that way its every color you want it to be. And you always match your alliance partners if you line up in the middle.
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Re: Robot color issues.

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About 30 seconds ago while working on our electrical board, we realized something: the colors we use every year for the same boards are blue and gold (our school's colors). This year, however, FIRST has us working with color tracking cameras that pick up blue, yellow, green, and red. Now we realize that we need to use some form of color that wouldn't lead a robot to follow us, but we were wondering if anyone else had given thought to this. In the rules, there is something about making your robots untraceable, isn't there?
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