homemade speed controlllers (for school project)

[Denman]

Has anyone ever made their own speed controllers for the robots?
Note this is for a School Project.

[DarkJedi613]

Originally Posted by Denman

Has anyone ever made their own speed controllers for the robots?
Its legal, but you have to get it approved by FIRST.
(note the reason i'm asking is for my electronics coursework not for our robot lol)

Last time I checked I thought the rules said it was illegal, you must use a Victor 884 made by Innovation FIRST

[Denman]

sorry, i dont care about whether its legal, but it could be a project for my electronics coursework, and i could test it on an old robot if i built it. Maybe i wont, i'm just interested in whether anyone has and if so how hard is it to do?

[Mike Betts]

Stephen,

Power electronics is a fascinating subject. Yes, with some coaching and some hard work on your part, I think you could do it. Please PM me when you plan to start and we will start a new thread here. However, can we wait until after next week? I'm swamped right now...

Mike

[Katie Reynolds]

Originally Posted by Denman

Its legal, but you have to get it approved by FIRST.

It's false statements like this that get other teams in trouble.

Originally Posted by Denman

sorry, i dont care about whether its legal

Regardless, you shouldn't go around making a statement like the former; especially when it is explicitly stated in the rules that only Victor 884 speed controllers may be used.

<R22> Only Victor 884 Speed Controllers are permitted. Victor 883 and 885 Speed Controllers may not be used.

[Denman]

Originally Posted by Katie Reynolds

It's false statements like this that get other teams in trouble.

Regardless, you shouldn't go around making a statement like the former; especially when it is explicitly stated in the rules that only Victor 884 speed controllers may be used.

<R22> Only Victor 884 Speed Controllers are permitted. Victor 883 and 885 Speed Controllers may not be used.

sorry i've changed the original post now...

[Adam Krajewski]

Originally Posted by Denman

Has anyone ever made their own speed controllers for the robots?
Note this is for a School Project.

I haven't built one, but the most developed plans for speed controllers I've found is the OSMC:

The official site for them is here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/osmc/
You can buy kits to build them here: http://www.robot-power.com/osmc_info/

I've wanted to build one, but I don't have a need for a 50V, 160A speed controller.

[Justin_302]

Originally Posted by Katie Reynolds

It's false statements like this that get other teams in trouble.

Regardless, you shouldn't go around making a statement like the former; especially when it is explicitly stated in the rules that only Victor 884 speed controllers may be used.

<R22> Only Victor 884 Speed Controllers are permitted. Victor 883 and 885 Speed Controllers may not be used.

he is asking how you can make one. he doesnt want to use it for Compitition

[sanddrag]

Back on track...

Does it need to go forward and reverse or only forward? It is pretty easy to make a forward only one actually.

[Denman]

havn't decided yet, it depends how hard it is to make one go backwards....
ideally yes
having im'ed mike betts, i'm probably going to be starting this in a couple of weeks (given other stuff gets sorted as well...) and there will m/p be a thread about it then

[Katie Reynolds]

Originally Posted by Justin_302

are you that stupid? he is asking how you can make one. he doesnt want to use it for compition

Hey now, no need to insult. I realize what he is asking; I posted the rule from the handbook to verify that the statement "Its legal, but you have to get it approved by FIRST." is indeed false. I posted it so someone reading this thread would not mistake his original statement as true, to avoid further confusion, and to make sure those skimming over the thread were fully aware that you cannot use homemade speed controllers in the FIRST robotics competition.

[Denman]

yes, hence why i edited the original post to remove the confusion. I thought you used to be able to do it and hence you still could, but i'm wrong and i accept that

[Alan Anderson]

Originally Posted by Denman

Has anyone ever made their own speed controllers for the robots?
Note this is for a School Project.

[voice=codger]I was programming robots and wiring speed controllers before you young'uns were born.[/voice]

In 1981, I was the principal programmer for a group building a radio-controlled robot (featuring a TV camera and two-way audio) for an engineering open house event at the University of Illinois. The electronics guy designed and built a 16-step pwm speed controller, using a separate mechanical relay to switch between forward and reverse. We tested everything out using a single 12-volt car battery and it worked well, if a bit slow -- the motor and circuitry were intended for a 24 volt supply. When we were satisfied with the results, we added the second battery. It went fine until we gave it full throttle, at which point the speed control circuit caught fire.

One of the diodes neatly unsoldered itself from the board and broke the circuit before we could react. Replacing those diodes with heftier ones fixed the problem, and the Synton Amateur Radio Club Telepresence Robot worked fine thereafter.

[Al Skierkiewicz]

Wow,
It must be the last week before ship as everyone is on edge. Stephen, Mike Betts is a good source for control. You do need to come up with a list of what you want to do. Do you need fine control of speed, direction control, full torque with speed control, etc. If you just want to change speed and don't care about anything else, you can find lots of variable voltage circuits that might work and are easy to build for beginners. You might want to hook up with an amatuer radio club for some added help. There is some really active clubs in Britain

[Denman]

cheers al! you are one of the people everyone knows and respects here
it would seem so (in relation to your first sentence), i have just found out that one of my mates is really into building remote controlled planes (and hes on the robotics team....)
ANyway, after the builds finished etc you'll hear from me more
stephen