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Unread 06-03-2005, 13:50
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Re: CALIFORNIA?

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Originally Posted by Dr.Bot
And I don't care how good your defense bot is, it can't stop two robots from
scoring. It might stop one, but not the other from hitting the center goal, and if it is successful defending the center, it is leaving another goal open for uncontested capping. In that finals every goal was capped at least once, most twice, a couple had three! So the only successful defense is to with gracious professionalism push one of your opponents over or completely disable them. I don't know about you, but I would never try to play the game this way. (someone who did was DQ'd and lost the match and the round.) Still the Quarter-Finals of elimination was the closest thing to Battle Bots I ever saw at a FIRST event.
Actually, many of the team 114ers agree with you - we don't much like the defensive aspect of the game. However, after being asked by the field teams of both the Poofs and the Jesuits to play defense for the extent of the elimination tournament, we went with that and tried our best to keep the others out of the way. Unfortunately, even with our maneuverability (swivel drive) we couldn't keep all three cappers down. Probably a somewhat flawed strategy - but who knows, maybe the three of us can give it another run with a few changes at San Jose!

I'd like to thank both Site 3 and the Poofs for picking us! We had a great time playing with you guys, and it sure was a pickup after we had such slanted qualifying pairings!

And, congrats to the alliance that beat us - you guys played an awesome game! I think it was a bit closer than the scores showed - a few key tetras were holding a bunch of rows for you guys - but I think that the final rounds were some of the only ones where I could say that I felt that all the teams played well and that there weren't any gross miscalls by the referees.


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Re: CALIFORNIA?

yeah what is it with those slanted qualifying pairings???
i wish FIRST had a better ranking system which reflected more your own robots capabilities. this would be more beneficial in the alliance team selections because i think many teams are not picked because they have a low ranking when really they are actually a lot stronger then many robots ranked higher.
we felt that way this year and i am sure other teams did too.
i guess any "individual" would be difficult to score though.
what are your thoughts???
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