The 2005 Israeli Regional

[Joe Ross]

How did 1575 do?

[Shlomi32]

hi. I'm from team 1577.
the games where great! I've never believed that its possible to collect so much point. the FIRST competition in Israel was really fun and we want to be in Atlanta right now!! i think that Mevoot Eron was great & they had the best robot & Driver but they had so mechanical problems that interrupt them.

[Mike Schroeder]

Originally Posted by spadercool

Its good there will be 3 or 4 countries at this year's champianships. I guess it can no longer be called nationals .

it has not been called Nationals for a few years, i am almost sure that 2000 was the last year that the Banners said National Champions on it, I will have to check that out (its hanging up somewhere in our work area :-p) but we have had inter-nationals for a couple of years now

[A. Snodgrass]

The last year that the final competition was called Nationals that I remember was 2000. The big issue that was brought up at that time was that because the competition encompassed teams from multiple different countries at that time, that the name for the final competition should reflect that. There was at least a minor debate about the whole issue, and it was changed officially at that point.

[Wetzel]

Originally Posted by Shlomi32

hi. I'm from team 1577.
the games where great! I've never believed that its possible to collect so much point. the FIRST competition in Israel was really fun and we want to be in Atlanta right now!! i think that Mevoot Eron was great & they had the best robot & Driver but they had so mechanical problems that interrupt them.

This is often the case. A team will have a great design, but it is not robust enough to stand upto the competition. Lessions learned. I'm glad you had a great time!


Wetzel
PS: Welcome back Ashlee.

[1574aviad]

Originally Posted by Shlomi32

hi. I'm from team 1577.
the games where great! I've never believed that its possible to collect so much point. the FIRST competition in Israel was really fun and we want to be in Atlanta right now!! i think that Mevoot Eron was great & they had the best robot & Driver but they had so mechanical problems that interrupt them.

dude...Mevoot Eron were great...
and if i remember the way things went(and i do) , they were the team ranked 2nd after us(1574)....and i dont recall and tech problems they had..

[1574aviad]

Originally Posted by JosephM

How was the competition set up? Did you guys have practice, qualifying, and tournoment? If not, what is the set-up?

Was it a full FIRST field that the US/Canada regionals have?

Are they going to expand next year?

Will any teams be coming to the US for Champs?

the competition was set like this:
12 practice rounds
12 qualifying rounds
the best 2 ranked teams choose their alliances for the final rounds(first alliance to win 2 rounds wins medals)

it was a full FIRST field.

we hope next year it will expand to two israeli regionals and to have teams from Egypt,Jordan, and Palastine included in these regionals.

highest ranked team(1574) and rookie all-star(1577) are going to participate in the 2005 Championship.

[Mike Hendricks]

Originally Posted by 1574aviad

the competition was set like this:
12 practice rounds
12 qualifying rounds
the best 2 ranked teams choose their alliances for the final rounds(first alliance to win 2 rounds wins medals)

it was a full FIRST field.

we hope next year it will expand to two israeli regionals and to have teams from Egypt,Jordan, and Palastine included in these regionals.

highest ranked team(1574) and rookie all-star(1577) are going to participate in the 2005 Championship.

Good to see that FIRST is going global. It'll do wonders for the enginerring community.

You and Leav said it was a "full FIRST field". Does this mean you went out with 3 bots on each alliance? Or did you do 2?

As for the 12 practice and 12 qual rounds .. wait until you get to Atlanta, with 100 practice rounds, and about 125 qual rounds

[1574aviad]

Originally Posted by tiffany34990

it must have been really cool..i can't wait to see some images.

images will be up soon..
if you really want them before i upload contact me via msn\icq
msn: kgb2f@nana.co.il
icq: 206546109

[UgLyHeAd]

I would like the thank all you guys for your compliments.
I'm the driver for team 1657, HaMosad, Mevoot - Eron.
yesterdays loss was really disappointing. we had a winning robot not less capable then MisCar's but we still lost. our great team managed to fix all the mechanical problems prior to the finals, but still we lost.
as a driver, i fell that i pretty much did the same as in other matches that we were more lucky in. and maybe that's it...luck. although i think that we can say that "luck" is also about a combination of alliance members and strategy. but then again, i was focused only in my robot for these short 2 and a half minutes so i cant really say what's the cause...
but still, seeing your own creation works is amazing. we built our robot completly by ourselvs. the only help we got what so ever was Yona, a Lumenis worker that dropped by every now and then and gave some advices about electronics. the entire thinking fabrication process was done by the amazing skills of my fellow team members, working days without any sleep (my rercord was 16 hours )
For me, a thing that was really upsetting was also the fact that we didn't got the "Good sportsmanship award" (or some other award that focuses on off the field behaviour...sorry, too many award names for me to remember ))
our team arrived in 6:30 am to volunteer and help constructing the competition's arena. we built every tetra, loaded each robot crate, vacuumed the carpets and lined the Plexiglas boards. our team brought hundreds of pounds of equipment. from a vacuum cleaner to an air compressor, a disk saw and a grinding wheel. other teams were more then welcomed to use our equipment. there were entire teams that wouldn't had the ability to make their robots functional to the match without us and our equipment! also, prior to the competition, we built the entire arm-tip to one of the teams that wouldn't make it in time!.
I'm not saying we did all that and expected some kind of reward. heck, i wasn't even aware of that kind of award until the moment that Blair (the amazing MC) announced it, and all of my team-members eyes gleamed, coz we knew we deserve it. but nonetheless, we were the ones to stay and clean the arena well after everybody else left.
But as being this involved in the making of the event and not just participating in it, i had to pleasure of meeting and making friends with some great staff people and volunteers from First. people like Adam, Michell, Shy-El and Blair (again..the amazing MC) and many more. i wasn't just concerned about my teams performance, but i can say i was concerned about the entire event's success. now i can wear my First's "CREW" t-shirt with pride!
too bad it's my one and only First competition. being 18 i gotta join the army next year.
anyway, i would like to wish MisCar and Steampunk all the luck they need.
and i wish they would represent my country well. im here crossing my fingers for you. i know they are some good guys and they are gonna have fun in Atlanta. and also, thanks for saving me the long flight

[MissInformation]

Originally Posted by 1574aviad

we hope next year it will expand to two israeli regionals and to have teams from Egypt,Jordan, and Palastine included in these regionals.

Uh-oh... looks like you have caught that dangerous FIRST bug that's been going around... of course, you probably couldn't help it, it's highly contagious... and we don't mind at all if you pass it on!

I'm looking forward to seeing both teams in Atlanta!

Heidi

[Jack Murphy]

we hope next year it will expand to two israeli regionals and to have teams from Egypt, Jordan, and Palastine included in these regionals.

That is great news. Good luck with all your efforts

[Mike Hendricks]

Originally Posted by UgLyHeAd

For me, a thing that was really upsetting was also the fact that we didn't got the "Good sportsmanship award" (or some other award that focuses on off the field behaviour...sorry, too many award names for me to remember ))
our team arrived in 6:30 am to volunteer and help constructing the competition's arena. we built every tetra, loaded each robot crate, vacuumed the carpets and lined the Plexiglas boards. our team brought hundreds of pounds of equipment. from a vacuum cleaner to an air compressor, a disk saw and a grinding wheel. other teams were more then welcomed to use our equipment. there were entire teams that wouldn't had the ability to make their robots functional to the match without us and our equipment! also, prior to the competition, we built the entire arm-tip to one of the teams that wouldn't make it in time!.
I'm not saying we did all that and expected some kind of reward. heck, i wasn't even aware of that kind of award until the moment that Blair (the amazing MC) announced it, and all of my team-members eyes gleamed, coz we knew we deserve it. but nonetheless, we were the ones to stay and clean the arena well after everybody else left.

Please don’t take this as an insult .. as many rookie teams don’t fully understand how the awards are given (which is ok .. the fact they even made it to the competition is more than anyone can expect of a rookie team). You probally saw some people in blue shirts with the FIRST logo. Those are the judges, they decide who gets the awards. During the competition, the judges should of came to your pit and talked to several kids from your team. When this happens, you need to sell yourself to the judges. Point out certain features on your robot that make it unique, steps taken to build it, your teams outreach to the community, marketing, ect. This is the time to tell them about all your hardwork and efforts to make the competition better. Tell them about all the tools you brought, tell them about how your team showed up to assemble the field. Let them get close to your robot, let them touch parts, tell build season stores .. The more you tell the judge, the better your chances at winning something. Never EVER ignore a judge, and never make them try to pull the words out of you. Don’t be afraid to talk to them either, theyre just as normal as you and me. Make sure your team knows to conduct themselves accordingly when around judges too (no horseplay, everyone has safety glasses, no cussing – that’s a big one).

As for the sportsmanship award .. Heres what FIRST says about it:

9.1.3.8 Johnson & Johnson - Sportsmanship
This award celebrates outstanding sportsmanship and continuous gracious professionalism in the heat of competition, both on and off the playing field.

For example, after your team is defeated (or even if you win) go up to the other alliance and shake their hands and say “good match” or something to that effect. FIRST isn’t about robots, its about partnerships, team work, helping others, and promoting the engineering community. The robot is just a bonus. Between the time you ship the robot, and when you go to competition .. check out the awards you can win. Talk to your teammates about the awards you should try to get, and then figure out a plan on how to make your team look the best for this/these award(s). Winning awards (except highest rookie seed, rookie imagery, and rookie allstar) is a skill that is perfected over the years.

Never expect to win an award, you’ll just be disappointed if you don’t get it. It’s always fun to listen to the announcer read off the award and about the team who got it, while you sit there thinking if it was your team or not. There is one thing you can be assured .. the teams who get the awards definitely deserve them. But like robots, FIRST isn’t about awards. Technically, everyone who participates gets an award – the experience they received from participating – there isn’t a single thing on this planet that can compare to that.

It’s too bad you cant stick around to help the team next year. I was a senior in our rookie year, and had a blast. I wished we started the program when I was a freshman. I was glad the team welcomed me back to help again this year, as well as go to the competitions with them. College students with FIRST experience are extremely respected as far as the team is concerned. They know what works, what to do, as well as what not to do. If your team has any former FIRST people on it, be sure to thank them for giving up their time to help the team, the same thing goes for any adults or mentors. Without them, you probally wouldn’t know that FIRST is. When you get out of the army, be sure to stop by your old highschool and see how the team is doing. Good luck in your future endeavors.

Congratulations to all the Israel teams. You guys are the future of FIRST, spreading the program to another side of the planet. Any Israeli teams Atlanta, feel free to stop by Team 1388’s pits for anything you might need. Even if we cant help you, we’ll get you guided in the right direction. Good luck and we’ll see you there!

[Luftzig]

Name's Luft, Hamosad's captain. My time is short for this reply, as I have to be back in school soon. I'd like to congrat Misgav (MisCar) and Steampunk for their win. I was happy to hear that Steampunk won the Rookie Allstar as I was to make it to the tournoment rounds. Those guys really deserved this award.
We have photos and thanks to be posted soon.

[Simon Strauss]

yasher koach (probably spelled that wrong) on your win team 1574, hopefully we will be able to see you guys in Atlanta if we qualify. We're also trying to raise enough money so that next year we can be the first American team to compete in the Israeli regionals. but i have a strange feeling we wont be able to raise enough.