Noticed any patterns?

[bjimster1]

I was thinking about what could possibly next year's game when I noticed there might be a pattern.

The pattern follows the FIRST logo; square, circle, triangle.

2003: Stack Attack (used rectangualar tubs for scoring objects)
2004: FIRST FRENZY (used balls as scoring ojects)
2005: Triple Play (used tetras as scoring objects)

Now I've only been part of this since 2004 but I was able to find out about 2003.
Please let me know if this pattern is consistant with earlier years of FIRST
If there is a pattern post what kind of scoring object there was.

Thanks

[Tiki]

It seems that we're due for a square/rectangle object next year, I might be wrong, who knows?

[DarMagi]

The 2002 game also featured balls and movable goals like the 2004 game, to the best of my knowledge the goals were moveable and the robots had to put the balls in the goals not a human player.

[Billfred]

Alright, using what I know about FIRST, it seems that there's a continuous swing from the experimental to the traditional. Some things (autonomous mode) come back for later games, others (4v0 gameplay) don't.

Consider the innovations:

1992: Well, everything.
1993: Carpet (which was new at the time), radio control
1994: Shooting balls into a goal
1995: Real-time scoring (as opposed to scoring after the field comes to rest)
1996: Balls into a goal
1997: Inner tube scoring objects
1998: Balls, 1v1v1
1999: Alliances, Floppies
2000: Balls again, but with IFI control system
2001: The 4v0 game (albeit with balls)
2002: Balls yet again
2003: Bins, Autonomous mode
2004: Balls, goals...etc. But we do get C-based IFI gear and IR
2005: Tetras, 3v3, Vision

There is a definite pattern to this...anyone wanna guess?

[SizzelChest330]

Originally Posted by bjimster1

I was thinking about what could possibly next year's game when I noticed there might be a pattern.

The pattern follows the FIRST logo; square, circle, triangle.

2003: Stack Attack (used rectangualar tubs for scoring objects)
2004: FIRST FRENZY (used balls as scoring ojects)
2005: Triple Play (used tetras as scoring objects)

Now I've only been part of this since 2004 but I was able to find out about 2003.
Please let me know if this pattern is consistant with earlier years of FIRST
If there is a pattern post what kind of scoring object there was.

Thanks

I also noticed this pattern...
Though I have a feeling it wont go into Squares Rectangles or Boxes Etc. next year

Why?

Because last year FIRST liked the idea of capping, this years game expanded the idea of capping and arms on a robot

After seeing other the giant steps FIRST has taken (Better autonomous / Vision systems / 3 on 3 alliances, Tetras) next years game will most likely be somehting else they would like to expand on...
or maybe some other crazy thing with like Stair climbing or something odd like that!!!

Thats my Biased opinion on that

[Kevin Sevcik]

Stair climbing is old and busted. The ultimate stairs were in 1999, where you had to get on top of a movable platform. And last year with some pretty big steps. I vote ladder climbing is next on the list.

[SizzelChest330]

Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik

Stair climbing is old and busted. The ultimate stairs were in 1999, where you had to get on top of a movable platform. And last year with some pretty big steps. I vote ladder climbing is next on the list.

Well i was talking about like "Standard" humanish stairs
but yeah I guess that is kinda old if you look at it...

[Rombus]

i still want to see a PVC cube or even better, capped PVC pipe segments, a big game of pickup sticks, each goal could have a differnt way to get a pvc pipe into it to make it a huge challenge

[mtaman02]

Co-Opertition First? - 2000: Scored by placing balls in stationary goals and by successfully hanging off the chinup bar - Matchup:2v2

Diabolical Dynamics - 2001: Scored by placing balls in mobile goals / balancing the bridge w/ or w/o goals w/ or w/o robots on the bridge and retreating to the end zone by the end of the match / or match may be ended by teams pressing the e-stop and gaining a time multiplier - Matchup:4v0

Zone Zeal - 2002: Scored by placing balls in mobile goals and teams defending them in their corresponding zones and using a tether like device or the robot itself to go back to the home zone for points - Matchup: 2v2 Notes: First year for Retro-reflective tape

Stack Attack - 2003: Scored by stacking bins and using the highest stack as the multiplier stack - Matchup:2v2 Notes: First year for Autonomous mode and C Programming

FIRST Frenzy Raising the Bar - 2004: Scored by placing small balls in mobile or stationary goals and capping those calls with 2X multiplier and by successfully hanging off the chinup bar - Matchup:2v2 Notes: Second Year for Autonomous and C Programming, First year for IR Beacons

Triple Play - 2005: Scored by capping tetras around the field (Tic Tac Toe type of rules) get 3 of the same color in any direction and gain extra pts, Capping the vision tetra / retreat back to the home zone for extra pts - Matchup 3v3 Notes:Third Year for Autonomous and C Programming, First year for Cameras

[russell]

I am going to apply Russell Logic to this situation and see what happens.

2003=four sides
2004=one side
2005=three sides

The logical conclusion is that next year we will have to play with objects that have two sides. Please dont think too much about that. I just realised tetras have four sides and cubes have six............ Ill just play it safe: I predict that next year we will have a water game.

[Matt Krass]

Originally Posted by mtaman02

Stack Attack - 2003: Scored by stacking bins and using the highest stack as the multiplier stack - Matchup:2v2 Notes: First year for Autonomous mode and C Programming

2003 was actually the first year of autonomous, but it retained PBASIC programming, C didn't come around until 2004.

[Meredith343MiM]

I noticed the pattern with the logo the day of kickoff! Coincidence? Who knows. The whole idea of the FIRST game is to be unpredictable. My guess is that they won't be following a trend... but that's nothing but a mere guess.

[dlavery]

All I have to say is .... inflatable clowns.


-dave

[Alex Cormier]

Originally Posted by dlavery

All I have to say is .... inflatable clowns.


-dave

sweet!

[Jay H 237]

Originally Posted by dlavery

All I have to say is .... inflatable clowns.


-dave

That must mean we're getting a bigger compressor next year and pnuematics will play a more important role.


I knew it just had to be some sort of a hint!