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Re: Hardest Regionals?

What about NJ? No one has given that any credit? You have 237, 56, 25, 11, 303, 103, 102, 222, 175, 365...just to name a few. Granted 222 175 and 365 didn't attend this year but they have, NJ is by far the most intense regional i've attended.


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Re: Hardest Regionals?

The New England, Atlantic, and eastern midwest United States is where the top teams are located. With so many compeitions it seems like all the regionals have lost some power teams to the newer regionals. UTC, NJ, and NH are probably still some of the most loaded regionals with excellent teams, just fewer than in the past. The midwest also used to have some loaded regionals but just reading this post and some other posts, it seems like their top 2-3 regionals are loseing teams to newer places as well.

With so many regionals, I bet the invitationals in the northeast are going to be extremely fun to watch. I mean this year's UTC missed a few noticeible teams like Buzz and Sie-H20-bots, I'm willing to bet those guys as well as many of the NJ, NY, UTC, NH teams are going to be at the same invitationals makeing some memorible moments. WPI, Beantown Blitz, bash @ the beach, PARC (assumeing those invitationals are going to happen again) are going to have awsome teams signed up. Realisticly if the top Northeast teams show up to the same place, it will be harder to make elmination rounds at these invitationals than most regionals in the country.

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Re: Hardest Regionals?

Picking a hard regional is out of mere opinion. If a team has an unstable robot or whatnot, they will consider the regional hard. Or if they go against tough alliances, they will consider the regional difficult. It's not really accurate or whatnot to ask people what the hardest regional is. It all depends.
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Re: Hardest Regionals?

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The New England, Atlantic, and eastern midwest United States is where the top teams are located. With so many compeitions it seems like all the regionals have lost some power teams to the newer regionals. UTC, NJ, and NH are probably still some of the most loaded regionals with excellent teams, just fewer than in the past. The midwest also used to have some loaded regionals but just reading this post and some other posts, it seems like their top 2-3 regionals are loseing teams to newer places as well.

With so many regionals, I bet the invitationals in the northeast are going to be extremely fun to watch. I mean this year's UTC missed a few noticeible teams like Buzz and Sie-H20-bots, I'm willing to bet those guys as well as many of the NJ, NY, UTC, NH teams are going to be at the same invitationals makeing some memorible moments. WPI, Beantown Blitz, bash @ the beach, PARC (assumeing those invitationals are going to happen again) are going to have awsome teams signed up. Realisticly if the Northeast teams show up, it will be harder to make elmination rounds at these invitationals than most regionals in the country.
Hey what about us here in the west. We got great teams like 60, 254, 980, 330, and 968 just to name a very few. Anyway, I think that Boilermaker and Midwest are probably the hardest.
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The midwest also used to have some loaded regionals but just reading this post and some other posts, it seems like their top 2-3 regionals are loseing teams to newer places as well.
That is very true. 4 or 5 years ago, I would have said the 2 hardest regionals were Great Lakes and Midwest, bar none. They were the only two regionals in the area, so all the powerhouse teams of the Midwest were there. I'd have also probably given the nod to GLR, because at that time, there were nearly 70 teams competing. 70 teams + all the midwest "elites" = the hardest regional in the country.

Now, with a new regional being added every year since 2001 (West Michigan, Buckeye, Pittsburgh, Detroit, and Boilermaker, in that order), the field has been diluted a bit. Not that it's a terrible thing, because more teams get to play, and more teams get to win, but it does lower the level of competition slightly. For this year, I would say the Boilermaker Regional had the toughest field of teams, which is fairly typical of the trend I've seen since 2001. The new regional always attracts a lot of big teams in its first year, because people want to go to the new event. Then, after a year, it generally tends to even out with the others.

So, which one will be the hardest next year? Wherever they add an 8th (!) regional in the Midwest Barring that, I'd have to go with my perennial favorite, Great Lakes.
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Re: Hardest Regionals?

From experince, I can say that New Jersey was a tougher competition than Buckeye. But from what I've heard and the teams that i've seen that went there, GLR is where the competition is. I also have a feeling the the Boilermaker will eventually be a tough regional. But who cares whats the hardest? Atlanta is where you prove it.
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Re: Hardest Regionals?

I think that UTC and BAE are still the regionals to beat. UTC was rougher than anything else I have seen this season. That includes the Boilermaker and Mid-west regionals. Add to this the fact that the NE is FIRST and we remember what it was like to play games that involved this little concept called DEFENSE!

I'll just say that it has been at least a good 4 years since any of the mid-west stalwarts 111, 71, 16, 47, 45 (and others I'm forgetting)...have ventured east.



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I think that UTC and BAE are still the regionals to beat. UTC was rougher than anything else I have seen this season. That includes the Boilermaker and Mid-west regionals. Add to this the fact that the NE is FIRST and we remember what it was like to play games that involved this little concept called DEFENSE!
AMEN to that.. I'm surprised this post hasn't gotten out of hand, this is like compareing the weak ACC to the powerful Big East conference in college basketball
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Re: Hardest Regionals?

Here's my OPINION:

GLR... "grand-daddy of all the regionals" is the hardest one there is. just look at the regional winners and finalists from the past five years at this regional, and see how they did at the nats... lets see we've got several national champs in that group, several more national finalists, and you cant even count the divisional finalists that we have in this group on one hand.

ya know what, i'm not even going to list the team numbers, we all know who they are!
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Re: Hardest Regionals?

A regional is no walk in the park none of them are "easy" and no one regional is harder than another, IMHO, each competition is meant to push your robot and your team to its limits. Yes, you may have teams with 10-13 years experience but the game and the rules are new to everybody. And the way some of these rookies teams have been coming up experience really doesn't have much to do with it. And teams that go to multiple regionals may have an advantage it doesn't eliminate the chance of any other team winning that event.
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I have been to two regionals all three years I have been on the huskie brigade, Great Lakes and Midwest. In my opinion those two are the hardest regionals to comete at. Lets see here at Great Lakes we got teams 1,33,65,66,67,68,141,279,302,308,322,469,1023 and at Midwest we got teams 45,65,71,79,107,108,111,269,383,461,537,648,903,93 0. Yes i know that other teams at those regionals were really good but these teams here if you say their number in a convo about F.I.R.S.T. then you are going to be like "Man they are a good team." Now dont get me rong, Detroit, Western Michigan, and Boileemaker are all really hard regionals but you have to look at every team there and all of their acomplishments from the past. And I do know that past winnings don't mean much, 2003 national champs then lose to 71 and 494 in division quarter finals, but just take this for an example... when my teams robot didn't do to goot at GLR this year I talked to this mentor from team 1 and he said that he knows that we wernt good here but whwn we go to Midwest we will be a whole heck of alot better. He said that from past accomplishments. wow i realy got off track here. well i'm going to stop. i hope you enjoy reading my post. ha ha ha. And thanks Ken for giving me the chance to change the gripper.
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Re: Hardest Regionals?

IMHO Purdue, Great Lakes, and the Midwest regionals are traditionally (or will become in the case of Purdue) the hardest regionals. 45, 71, ect, ect, ect all go there on a regular basis. As for the East Coast, VCU and UTC are probably the toughest in the East. VCU has a TON of underrated teams (Virginia has 55 teams after all, several are traditionally quite good, such as 122, 384, and 388), and is a first week regional, and UTC speaks for itself. The 3 California reginals are all tough as well (and with close to 100 california teams, they should be).
Its true every year the strength of individual teams does change. So I named some of the traditionally harder regionals. All regionals have a few "powerhouses" at them each year. Such as 233 and 118 going to a "weak" (no offense to any of the teams, but it is a weaker and younger regional) colorado regional, or 47 going to Pitts (same deal as colorado).
NONE of the regionals are easy to win, and im sure the balance of power amognst the regionals will change over time (in a couple years many of the young teams in colorado might become quite good for instance). But the midwest regionalS (not the midwest regional, but all the regionals in the Michigan, Indiana, ect area) currently are the strongest of them all, and there really arnt any other regionals that can compare to them.
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Of the 3 regionals I have gone to, P'tree, VCU and Boilermaker, Boilermaker dominated over everything I have seen. I think robotwise, nothing could touch Boilermaker. The BEAST basically dominated but still, there were many other good robots.
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