Favorite Teams that did not get picked

[MobiusOne358]

I'd like to thank everyone who has mentioned us, team 358, as a missed pick.

Being the human player, I ran out of tetras to load in 3 of our 7 matches (we capped 7 or 8 in each of those matches) and we beat some of the better teams out there on the field as well (237 who sadly also wasn't picked, 47, and 1280 I believe just to mention a few). I couldn't watch many of the matches because I was caught up in the pits much of the time, but I can assure you that some picks on Gallileo seemed to be because of poor scouting. Perhaps many of the top 8 weren't used to having to pick?

Some souting jobs were really great, though. As Pat stated, 103 had a few unlucky breaks, so they flew under the radar only to be snatched up by 16. 64 was also a great pick by 56, as they did nicely protecting that home row the whole time.

Of course, I'm biased, but I think we along with many other teams just went too unnoticed by the choosing alliances on Gallileo. We stayed up all night on Friday (our head scouter got about 20 minutes of sleep) just in case if we somehow moved into a picking position. It was very disappointing to see that some of the teams that were up there in ranking the whole competition did not do the same.

[Macdaddy549]

Team 549 the DevilDawgs which finished 14th in Curie was not picked. We really thought that we were going to see some action. As it was we were on standby till the finals on Einstein. We were 30 seconds from going on when 108 broke down. Oh well, there is always next year.

[ben281]

well...we have all now said that we think so and so should have been picked. but isn't this water under the bridge by this point? just saying...we should be arguing about what to do better instead of being dissapointed about the past. teams will learn from there mistakes. (trust me, we have made more than i can count) ; )
ttyl
Ben
TEAM 281

[Kris Verdeyen]

Personally, I liked 1022 in Curie. They had some strategy problems early, but once they were able to convince their partners to let them play their game, they did it effectively. They also had a conveyer belt end effector that was, as far as I know, unique.

[Dorienne]

I was surprised when 222 and 25 didn't get chosen. They've built amazing robots over the past couple years I've known them, and when I heard they did not get chosen, I was astonished. From what I heard from Mike on 25, they lost almost every match.

Bad alliancing usually happens, and mistakes are made. Poor scouting is always a factor as well. I would suspect that teams look at how the alliance does, not the robot itself. That's a problem I think should be fixed in team scouting plans. Look at the robot, guys, not the alliance. Big mistake.

[MobiusOne358]

Since bad scouting (or rather, being in an unexpected picking position or inexperience) is the reason for much of this, perhaps FIRST should try to do something about it. Maybe they could post the overall stats of their teams on their website or maybe let each team make a statement about themselves and why they should be picked and should display it. I know it sounds wierd....but if it's a problem basically every year, FIRST should perhaps do something to help.

[Jill1022]

Originally Posted by Kris Verdeyen

Personally, I liked 1022 in Curie. They had some strategy problems early, but once they were able to convince their partners to let them play their game, they did it effectively. They also had a conveyer belt end effector that was, as far as I know, unique.

Thanks, its true. Oh well, we were just happy to compete!

[MrToast]

Yeah, that third team in the 123:7 match was 121. I agree with Rob, it was an amazing way to start the day.

Interesting bit of info:
237 was actually at the top of the list for the 47-121 alliance to pick in the second round, but due to a mixup in the communication channels, they weren't. Oh well.

<soapbox>
We all have to remember that the point of FIRST isn't the game... it's what we learn from the game. What did you learn? I learned that sometimes you get hit in the back of the head (by a curveball, no less!) and you just have to deal with it, move on, and do the best that you can. To heck with the game... I now know what Lexan and Delrin and snaprings and PWMs are! Without FIRST, I never would've learned that.
</soapbox>

Dave

[slickguy2007]

Originally Posted by Adrienne E.

One team that I was really surprised to hear didn't make the finals was 1403. They were our partners at the Buckeye Regional and they were amazing. At one point in the finals I was paying attention to our robot the entire match and at the end of the 2 minutes I looked up and 1403 had single handedly capped the entire opponent’s home row. Tough break you guys, I can’t wait to see what you come up with next year.

Thank you. We tried hard, but it happens. This just motivates us to build an even stronger robot for next year. We'll see you in Ohio again next year.


GO 1403!!!

[dubious elise]

Truth be told, I was astounded that 573, 1646, and 301 went home without shots at the finals in Curie. All three were great machines under good control and deserved much better.

[C.Roberts 1089]

most definitely 25 (raider robotix) and 237 (t.r.i.b.e. sie-h2o bots)... to agree with heretic, the scouting in galileo was entirely lacking.

[galewind]

Originally Posted by Meyerman

how can you call the scouting poor! if it was poor scouting we woulda picked in order of ranking we picked who we picked for reasons cheesy poofs werent top 8 we picked them and they prob shouldnt have been around for the 2nd seed to pick they were amazing and team 64 was ranked far back just like 103 and they both got picked because some scouts were good and realized these bots shouldnt be were they are. the ranking shouldnt matter outside top 8 you should be picking on what the robot can provide for the alliance not where its ranked what if 254 was in 85th yer telling me they shouldnt have been picked! it woulda been hard for them to do soo poorly but i hope you get what im trying to say. i think teams didnt scout well if they only picked low ranked teams because i know 3 great teams shoulda been picked but due to rankings they werent and that was definately bad scouting!

Our scouting wasn't bad, but I had been convinced by people of 2 different teams to go override that and to go through a certain strategy for picking people from the unique position I was in. I had essentially bought into this risky strategy, which ended up annoying the heck out of our scouting team. I am not at all disappointed with our alliance, but I wish I would have just stuck with what we wanted to do. It was our first time in that position, and I know I learned my lesson. We're still extremely pleased with how we did overall.

[the_short1]

i think MORE teams need a copy of Kathliks championship scouting guide!!

look in whitepapers! .. with taht and a copy of the current standings, teams could start crossing others off the list, while looking at teams taht did VERY well in other regionals but bad luck in champs could be picked!
we all have our bad matches

[Mike Ciance]

7, 75, 222, 237, and 1251 should have all been picked. 237 should have been a first round pick

Originally Posted by Dorienne Plait

from what I heard from Mike on 25, they lost almost every match

actually, one of our losses was replayed, and we ended up winning for a 3-4 final record. we got in 54th place out of 82 teams

[mrmummert]

Originally Posted by nikkibajbaj

I was surprised that (in Curie) Team 1646 went unpicked. Their drivers were doing great, and they were 5-2...they were extremely consistent and great at what they did.

Hi... they were right next to us in the pits. I was a little surprized
we did'nt get picked either. We were 19th (5-2-0)and it was weird as
team 353 which was 65th did get picked...I guess they just
don't know us yet.