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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

Okay, my favorite is biased, but so what.

2003 Stack Attack. Autonomous is introduced as a major component of the game. My son, Josh, who had been doing general electrical stuff for two years becomes the student leader for autonomous.

First Regional, Chesapeake -- autonomous routines are written as "dead reckoning" routines. GeroniMOE is able to win the race to the wall, and take most of it over about 75% of the time. Good but not good enough.

Second Regional, Philadelphia -- a gyro is mounted to GeroniMOE and autonomous codes are changed to make use of gyro. GeroniMOE still wins race to wall, and effectively captures the wall about 90% of the time. Unfortunately, robot doesn't stop, and in 15 seconds goes too far and hits the player station wall--HARD. (Actually hits at the 9-10 second mark.)

Championships, Houston -- autonomous code is modified to watch the elevation changes as GeroniMOE goes up and down the ramps, and either stops partway down the second ramp, or at the bottom. (Thereby avoiding any robot damage from hitting player station wall.)

Watching Josh work as the lead student, writing and improving the autonomous code as the season progressed, definitely had a very personal satisfaction for me. That year will always be my favorite for autonomous modes.

(I believe they had 12 modes that year, but mainly only used 3 or 4. This years robot had something unbelieveable like 32 or 36 modes, but once again we mainly used 3 or 4 routines. We even had a routine to stop a capper on the center goal in autonomous, just in case, but never had to break it out.)
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Championships, Houston -- autonomous code is modified to watch the elevation changes as GeroniMOE goes up and down the ramps, and either stops partway down the second ramp, or at the bottom. (Thereby avoiding any robot damage from hitting player station wall.)
I remember one of the modes we used in Houston was a quick hook straight back to knock down any human player stacks that may have been up. Wildstang had erected a 6-bin stack on our side because no one had seen us do the hook mode. When we did it, the look on the Wildstang driver's faces was priceless. Josh was a really awesome programmer.
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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

2003- I loved 312 autonomous mode, they would go up the ramp and take out every box on the ramp, it was pretty impressive to me.

2004- None really stand out

2005- I thought 233 PINK's autonomous mode was awesome when they picked two off the autoloader.
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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

[quote=krunch79prez]2004- None really stand outQUOTE]

You've got to be kidding, not to sound mean or anything but Gompei was the best auto mode ever. Gettting on the bar everytime in autonomous is jaw droppingly amazing...sorry just my ranting and raving.
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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

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2004- None really stand outQUOTE]

You've got to be kidding, not to sound mean or anything but Gompei was the best auto mode ever. Gettting on the bar everytime in autonomous is jaw droppingly amazing...sorry just my ranting and raving.
It was cool, but in my opinion (not to sound mean) it was a waste of a match...there was so much to do last year, why do something like that where you limit your robot to scoring 50 points? Put that autonomous mode up against any robot that actually does stuff for a whole match THEN hangs and 190 loses. In my mind, a great autonomous mode is more focused on helping win the match than just being cool.

I can imagine that it would be pretty boring to be their 2004 drivers when they ran that auto mode. Nothing to do at all for the whole match.

It was pretty darn cool though.
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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

They didn't just do that, They had an arm that picked up the 2x ball off the middle platform and could cap your stationary goal, or they could use that arm to decap your opponents stationary goal. Also they had flaps that could prevent your opponents to hang from the bar. Couple that with your herding ability you had a pretty awesome allaince. Check out Curie Qf2_m1 on soap 108 last year if you want more proof. That's all for me, let's return this to the primary focus of this thread.
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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

2003: 111 - it was the only one i saw that did more than just drive up the ramp (and worked)

2004: 47 - they drove out, grabbed the goal, and lifted the ball. simple and effective

2005: anyone who could cap the center and knock the side i only saw 33, 980 (who wins by capping the side, too), 494, and 27, but i'm sure there were more.

Also, auto loader autons were pretty cool, we got one to work sat. afternoon in atlanta that could pick up an auto loader tetra and cap the side goal, but we only proved it out on the blue side and were eleminated before we got a chance to try it. We'll tweak it out at IRI.

Personally, I didn't care for the vision tetra autons. The whole system was too inconsistant for me. Congrats to anyone who go it to work, though.
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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

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Here's my picks for each year:

Stack Attack: Wildstang, handsdown how can you compete with someone that takes out all your stacks AND gets on top of the ramp in 15 secs?

P.S. you don't have to have one for each year, these were just my favorites.
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Heatwave (312): they used to get all the boxes on their side.

Wildstang (111): one hell of a spider drive which smashed into the wall of boxes in less than 5 seconds.

... please keep in mind that I haven't seen EVERY single bot in action during autonomous.
I know Arefin forgets I bet, but the fastest robot in the land of the stack attack year was my old team, 710. 6 wheel drive 2 wheel steering was added to make the robot do a 8 foot radius (amount needed to clear the ramp wall and drive up) in under 4 seconds. Our problem was we knocked 3/4 of the boxes over, and that was great. But we didn't know what to do with the other 11 seconds so we just sat at the top! The flaw in our game plan, and in fact almost everyone's game plan, was the fact that the king of the hill was far more important than stacking ever was
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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

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2003: 111 - it was the only one i saw that did more than just drive up the ramp (and worked)

2004: 47 - they drove out, grabbed the goal, and lifted the ball. simple and effective

2005: anyone who could cap the center and knock the side i only saw 33, 980 (who wins by capping the side, too), 494, and 27, but i'm sure there were more.

Also, auto loader autons were pretty cool, we got one to work sat. afternoon in atlanta that could pick up an auto loader tetra and cap the side goal, but we only proved it out on the blue side and were eleminated before we got a chance to try it. We'll tweak it out at IRI.

Personally, I didn't care for the vision tetra autons. The whole system was too inconsistant for me. Congrats to anyone who go it to work, though.

We just posted a short movie of our autonomous in Atlanta http://www.team980.com/#automovie2 .
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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

i liked 980's and ours BUT i did notice that thier was a differance from the practice field to compition fields carpet so our autonomous did not work every time.
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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

I liked 254's autonomous. They capped the center goal and knocked the hanging tetra off the goal. They were consistent in every match and most of the time after autonomous, 254's side would have a row. They have always been great with autonomous. In 2004, I don't remember anyone who could knock that 10pt ball off as fast and as consistently as they did. I also like 980's autonomous this year and last year. I remember seeing them grab the 2x multiplier and knock off the 10 pt ball last year. When I saw that I was simply amazed. Good job guys!

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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

2003- wildstang that thing was amazing to watch i only watch clips but it was just sooo fast to the top of the ramp.

2004- i love our automode on 56 we only went up against one other team that did it im sure others did it tho, we went out grabed our movable and brought it back under the ball drop and the arm also moved into position to uncap the 2x ball this auto mode really helped us win a lot of matches.

2005- i watch 233 that was an awsome auto but from what im hearing 980 is tops. and of coarse im gunna hafta mention 237 they were one of the few to cap vision in auto altough it wasnt center they did what not too many others could great job 237!
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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

For 2005, Wildstang was my favorite. They had the whole crowd cheering when they almost had a vision tetra stacked in autonomous mode. That was one of my favorite moments of all of nationals. They had a great looking bot. Another great autonomous mode was, I think 1466. They had the vision tetra stacked twice from what I saw of them, but just hadn't seated properly on the center goal.

I wish I would have seen 980's. I hear it was totally awsome.
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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

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what happened this year HOT >? .. . did you guys run outa memory to include an autom ? i know that drive control code must be HUGE!.. still sweet how you guys start verticle! eheh !
Thats exactly what happened... with our drivetrain and arm programming (plus all the other goodies - motion filters, preset position buttons etc etc) we only had like 12% (iirc) of the memory left... kinda limited our auton abilities
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Re: Favorite Autonomous Mode

thanks we did have some trouble at nats with ours but we managed to fix them by the finals. man Andy and Mike is going to be so happy people like his autonomous. thanks you guys
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