Michael Jackson

[jonathan lall]

Originally Posted by MrToast

So according to you, little children are insane? You missed my point. There is a difference with at one time knowing right from wrong and then losing it and never knowing it at all (as I believe is the case with Jackson). The former is insanity. The latter is unfortunate.

According to me, little children are excluded. I'm just telling you how the law sees things. In fact, the law sees those under 12 as unable to form criminal intent, or mens rea (which is, along with a guilty act, actus reus, what a prosecutor must prove beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict any crime). Those older than 12 and under 18 are often tried under special conditions. And those who are insane (whether it's acquired or whether they were always insane), can use the insanity plea. Knowing right from wrong is a good criterion, because by definition, it does not preclude conviction of sociopaths. Regardless, MJ could tell. I think you might be using 'insane' and 'too young' interchangeably. Children pick up well before age 12 what is right and what is wrong, but 12 is a somewhat arbitrary number that jurists have chosen as 'too young to form intent'. This has nothing to do with insanity. Even if MJ still were childlike, he is not insane. Furthermore, he is not under 12, and therefore is not a child.

Originally Posted by MrToast

And I would say he is musically adept. Listen to the music track of Billie Jean. As one musician speaking of another, I love it. I wish I could compose such grooves like that. I'm a jazz pianist, and I would give my left arm to be able to lay down such riffs as the ones in Billie Jean.

Wait a sec... MJ produced his stuff too? If that's the case, I take it all back.

Originally Posted by Cory

Technically all 3 of them were acquitted. Like I've said... acquitted means they couldn't prove he did it. Innocent means that he didn't do it.

I'm trying to ascertain what Ryan meant. In that same post he said he believed in the guilt of all three, so what you're saying can't be what he meant, can it?