2006 Pre-Kickoff FF?

[JackN]

Cool Beans, I would totally do it.

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by T. Hoffman

Sounds fun - I'm in!

Even after event registration "officially" closes, regional team rosters can be fluid during the drafting period and even after Kickoff. How would you handle teams dropping out because of lack of funds or teams dropping IN? How would the presence of these newcomers at an event influence the decisions of people who had already picked a team for that competition? Some of these newcomers tend to be rather well-regarded teams.

I think dropouts/ins will be handled pretty much like the rest of the leagues do it--the picker has a hole in their lineup and can immediately draft any other available team. Since the entire FIRST Robotics Competition is fair game, I doubt we'll have a lack of teams.

[Daniel Brim]

I'd do it.

[Billfred]

Well, since it seems there's enough buzz to get this off the ground, I'll ask a few questions of the group.

The first is the method of picking teams. Three options I can think of:
1) Team at event. For example, you wouldn't draft 1293, you'd draft 1293 at Palmetto. Simpler to assign points to, but adds another layer to drafting (as you're shopping regionals as well) and has a chance of backfiring as teams drop and add competitions.
2) Average score. Here, you'd just be picking 1293. Just what you think it is.
3) Some other funkified scoring system. If it's implementable, and seems fair enough to all concerned, I'm open to it.

Then there's the question of Championship vs. No Championship. After a bit of thinking, I'm in favor of it, even if it adds another layer of trickiness to scoring.

Finally, there's drafting methods. To keep with the spirit of things, all trades would naturally end at Kickoff. However, I've thought more about teams that drop out or in, and I think there's a few ways to play this:

1) Allow folks whose teams dropped to pick another team once event payment deadlines have passed. (GP would be in full effect.)
2) Have everyone create a list before Kickoff with their backups, several deep.
3) Pick from the List of Fate.

Thoughts?

[JackN]

YOu could use the scoring like usual. The only problem would be it would take a long time to calculate scores

[Daniel Brim]

I would say average score, plus a reward for when a team wins an award.

[Alex Cormier]

how can i miss a ff?
of course i am in

[Joshua May]

Sounds great, i'm in.

[Corey Balint]

I'd be in this one too.

[Koko Ed]

Sure I'll play.

[Heretic121]

i would be in if its done...

[Billfred]

Originally Posted by Heretic121

i would be in if its done...

It'll happen--I'll make sure of that.

The question is how it'll happen. I'm still working on that.

[Jeff Rodriguez]

Originally Posted by Billfred

Well, since it seems there's enough buzz to get this off the ground, I'll ask a few questions of the group.

Ideas about selection clippped for space.

Thoughts?

Concerning the multiple regionals per team issue: I think teams should be scored on a team's season total. Knowing which teams go to multiple regionals and which regionals adds another dimension and makes it more challenging.
It would force FF participants to do more conversational research of a team. They'd have to talk to the members of the team and find out how the team is doing and where they plan on going.
Yes, the 'high funded/elite/great/whatever' teams would be drafted first, but it will probably happen that way regardless of the scoring system.


I think draft method #1 would be best.

[Ian Curtis]

If we want to make this harder on ourselves (it already is getting very complicated very quickly) You pick enough teams to go 5 regionals and the championship.

Example

I pick MOE (365) who goes to 3 regionals and the Championship and 71 who goes to 2 regionals. They both go to the Championship and I pick on of them as my team for the Championship.

Another Example

You pick 1686 who goes to one regional, 1293 who goes to 2 and 616 who goes to 2. Say none of them were going to the Championship you pick 16 as your championship team. Makes drafting harder but scoring easier, I think.

[Winged Wonder]

I'll definitely play! gives me something to do over the summer besides being a SHARPie thats robotics related ^_^

(leslie needs another hobby)